In policy proposals posted to her website, Harris called for an increase in the overall minimum wage and for the end of the subminimum wage for tipped workers.

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Another way to help the service industry would be to make medicinal cocaine (and similar) a tax deductible business expense. It’s a more valid business expense than a programmer buying a third monitor.

Or how about banning the practice of making the bartenders/waitresses tip out the bar back or bus boys when they should all just be getting paid a living wage by their employer. That would also be good for tipped employees.

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when they should all just be getting paid a living wage by their employer

The call to end to the minimum wage exception for tipped employees (+ calling for increases in minimum wage) are specifically trying to get more towards a living wage for them?

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STEP INTO A SLIM JIM!

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Snap into

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“OHH, yeah!”

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This is absolutely horrible! Whatever will be next? 5 weeks paid holiday?!?!
This is un-American, which is why I vote Trump. 🤪😜
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crikey! here we have a red capped mole rat and aint it a beaut! this little guy is engaged in its favorite pastime - unconfined rage at the “other” followed by some political self-immolation. we’ll leave this one to do its thing and trek on, mate.

edit: poor attempt at channeling the late steve irwin observing a republican voter in its natural habitat. undercooked and will be retired. :-/

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OK, I admit I misunderstood that completely.
I can see how the idea is funny, but as you acknowledge yourself, the execution needs work.

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yeah, 'twas a poor joke - not directed at the original commenter.

apprently my channeling of the late steve irwin and his wildlife observation of a republican conservative voter in its natural environment needs severe work, is likely critically flawed and will be retired.

thanks for the wellness check :-)

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That’s almost as good as raising the minimum wage. Almost.

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It’s raising a minimum wage.

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I dislike the elimination of taxes on tips because it opens a new loophole for rich assholes but I’m 100% behind eliminating sub-minimum wages.

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Harris’s proposal specifically includes an income limit to prevent people like hedge fund managers and lawyers from structuring their pay as “tips”. Trump’s version predictability does not.

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It sucks for more than just that though. There’s 0 reason for tipped workers to pay less in taxes over workers making the same just by virtue of being tipped.

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I would say the reliability of pay is a good reason. Tipped workers can’t count on a consistent amount of money. A bad month or even a bad week can mean rent doesn’t get paid.

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It does feel like we should be encouraging the end of tipping, not asking it to stick around forever.

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Removing the minimum wage exception to tips does help with that. Part of the reason why tips are inventived

Plus taxes on tips as they exist already has quite a number of assumptions that tipping will always exist. For instance, assumptions of a minimum 8% tip rate for reporting. Which will be withheld from pay from at least that assumption (which you can get back if you earn less by filling)

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Wouldn’t the elimination of taxes on tips entrench that non-taxable income as something servers would die before ever surrendering? Treating it as income means that whether that money is coming from hourly vs. tips is irrelevant and, at the end of the day, hourly compensation is always more reliable if all else is equal.

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PLEASE ENTER YOUR TIP PREFERENCE HERE

25% 28% 35%

skip

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Swivel the ipad 360° and walk away

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I agree, and we’d have to do it carefully so tipped workers continue making roughly the same as they do now.

Where I live a handful of trendy restaurants announced opened as no-tipping restaurants. They would add a 20% gratuity to every bill and claim it was used “to support a living wage and benefits” to the staff. Usually it was just sucked up into the revenue pile and used however the owner wanted.

If restaurants dropped tipping, raised their prices by 20%, and paid their staff 20% more, I would be okay with that. In the European countries I’ve visited, it seems to work just fine and food is still cheaper than where I live.

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