Why is the stadium going through carcenization? 🦀
Why don’t stadiums have their parking in large parking garages? The traffic for exiting the stadium already sucks as it is, why not a multiple entrance/exit garage system?
Parking garages costs a lot more than surface parking. And the amount of traffic which can leave is limited by the surrounding roads, not by the exits.
Edit: I’m not saying this is a good thing. I’m saying it’s the reasoning of the people who build stadiums.
Are you factoring in the opportunity cost of the wasted (poor optimized) space? Of all the extra fuel people have to burn to get around said wasted space? What about the long term environmental impacts?
Wasting land is only cheaper because the real costs get put on the rest of society and future generations.
Are you factoring in the opportunity cost of the wasted (poor optimized) space? Of all the extra fuel people have to burn to get around said wasted space? What about the long term environmental impacts?
No, and neither are the people building/paying for the stadium
Why do you ask this as if it’s not a thing?
Look up Santiago Bernabéu or Camp Nou, two of the largest stadiums in Europe, and you find no over ground parking lots. Same applies to most stadiums, with many actually being very well articulated with mass transit, to the point that it’s much quicker to just take the subway/train/bus on match day than to be stuck in traffic for hours.
Sorry, for the pedants out there, ‘why don’t all stadiums have parking garage systems instead of flat parking lots?’
If land is cheaper than construction costs, then they build a parking lot. If construction costs are cheaper than land, they build a parkade
If the stadium is anywhere near an urban setting only bad design warrants the building of (massive) car parks - and everybody using cars to get there. Shopping centres warrant large car parks because people load up with items. Sports grounds need to get people in and out in tight windows - there’s no contest in car v rail in this respect.
RMtransit did just do a video on getting people to and from stations using vehicles that aren’t cars!
I am tired of anti-car people pretending that removing cars from roads isn’t going to replace the empty space with shipping trucks. America is not Europe, it’s not a robust welfare state.
The other side of this is the fact that many people don’t want to use public transport. I’ve used excellent public transport in the EU, I still hate other people and don’t want to travel with them.
Why would less cars mean more shipping trucks? I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here.
That’s why anti-car people also advocate for better urban planning that still include cars but don’t make them the only viable option. And why can’t it be? America has the money.
The other side of this is the fact that many people do want to use public transport. I’ve driven in some excellent cars, I hate other drivers and don’t want to drive with them and I hate how ugly my city/ suburb is due to needing to have wide roads everywhere.
The other side of this is the fact that many people do want to use public transport. I’ve driven in some excellent cars, I hate other drivers and don’t want to drive with them and I hate how ugly my city/ suburb is due to needing to have wide roads everywhere
Great, just please don’t force your preferences on someone else.
One of the nicest things about the Houston Reliant Center is that there are two different rail stops along its edge.
If the city wasn’t run by people who viscerally hate mass transit, I could see a city in which the stadium complex housed a full sized Union Square style mass transit hub. But the fact that we built rail to our 120,000 seat stadium complex at all is something of a miracle. One of only two rail lines in the entire city, and its the third most heavily used transit corridor in the country.
