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Yep. They’re starting already. This will not end well and Matt Gaetz should be impeached from office. A sitting member of government should not be calling for violence against said government. They’re getting more bold and dangerous with their statements. By the time Trump loses the next election they’ll be inciting them to war.

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Genuinely, don’t bank on them losing. We can’t afford to underestimate the mass appeal of strongman rhetoric. It’s completely fucked. But this exact approach has worked as a precursor to a lot of authoritarian regimes.

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We should compare against the 2020 election, not 2016.

Have voters who supported Biden in 2020 switched to supporting Trump in 2024? I think not. If anything, I think recent news may have convinced a few Trump supporters to switch sides (potentially to a third party, which is still a win for Biden).

Still, it’s important that people actually get out and vote, because the margins are slim in a few important states. PA and GA come to mind.

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70 points

This will not end well

Especially not with the FBI still not aligning itself fully with democracy.

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The DOJ’s been trying to play both sides too

In the weeks before Jan. 6, Trump supporters boasted publicly that they had submitted fake electors on his behalf, but the Justice Department declined to investigate the matter in February 2021, The Post found. The department did not actively probe the effort for nearly a year, and the FBI did not open an investigation of the electors scheme until April 2022, about 15 months after the attack.

The Justice Department’s painstaking approach to investigating Trump can be traced to Garland’s desire to turn the page from missteps, bruising attacks and allegations of partisanship in the department’s recent investigations of both Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election and Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

Inside Justice, however, some lawyers have complained that the attorney general’s determination to steer clear of any claims of political motive has chilled efforts to investigate the former president. “You couldn’t use the T word,” said one former Justice official briefed on prosecutors’ discussions.

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I can’t believe people are still trying to defend Garland. That coward should be out doing a job he has the stomach for, like, say, tailoring.

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58 points

They’re getting bold because nothing happens to them.

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Matt Gaetz should be impeached from office

He should also be in prison for sex trafficking of minors, but I guess that’s a different discussion.

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16 points

He’s wealthy and politically connected. Not gonna happen. My country is screwed.

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No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

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This is what I don’t get. What’s the end game here? Why are people so hell bent on Trump winning? Do these politicians not see the ship sinking? What possible motivation could be keeping these people loyal to him? I’m not talking about the regular constituents but the other republican officials in office? What the hell do they stand to gain here?

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Because they are part of a cult that has infiltrated government for decades to turn it into a christofascist state and they’re at their endgame.

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16 points

It’s mass delusion. They’re operating primarily on lies and fantasy instead of any reality.

In other words, trying to apply logical reasoning to their perspective is not going to work.

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They’re at the point of being scooby doo villains, all that’s left is for them to say, “And I would have gotten away with it too, if not for you meddling leftists” as they’re being arrested for treason.

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Because the only other option, losing, means that they’re losers and they can’t accept that. It’s not any more complicated than that.

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He who rides the tiger can never dismount.

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Because they have made a deal with the devil and throwing in the towel means payment comes due. Thanks to the southern strategy Republicans hitched their proverbial wagon to the Christian extremists (who make up the bulk of the racists the southern strategy is predicated on). Decades of propaganda by the likes of Fox “News”, Rush Limbaugh, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, and Glenn Beck has left their party deeply mired with conspiracy theorists and people with only a tenuous grasp of reality, and an equal number of grifters and con artists preying on those same vulnerable populations. These people are the backbone of Trumps support and they have for various reasons completely embraced him in some cases even as a literal messiah. The Republican party is already struggling to attract enough voters to continue to win elections without resorting to voter fraud, they literally can not afford to give up a single voter, and turning against Trump at this point would shatter their party.

Trump is an existential threat to the Republican party, but one that perversely they can’t publicly attack without inciting the very thing that would destroy them. Like Frakenstein they’ve created a monster, and now it has turned on them. They’re frantically trying to keep its ire focused anywhere but on themselves and just hoping it does more damage to their opponents than it does to them before they can think up some way to contain or kill it.

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They want a race war. They want concentration camps and mass killings of anyone they deem a liberal. Reinstate slavery and to hurt a lot of people. That’s their in game. It’s a playbook written on writing a tidal wave of hate and emotions.

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They want freaking Gilead. I used to think that was just wild hyperbole, but good god are these right wing loonies scary.

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Terrorists

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“And so, to all my friends here in Iowa, when you see them come for this man, know that they are coming for our movement and they are coming for all of us.”

Not even pretending not to be fascist. Straight out of the playbook.

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matt gaetz sold children into sex slavery

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I thought he bought them?

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58 points

Fascist shit.

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We finally agree on something. History has shown that pacifism cannot defeat an infestation of conservatism. It must be cured by force.

Also, isn’t Matt Gaetz a child molester? Why is he still allowed to walk free and give statements to the press?

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What makes you think vigilantilism is a problem with the extreme left?

Just as an example off the top of my head, the murder of Ahmaud Arbery was done by right-wing looneys and defended by the far-right as morally good vigilantilism, leading to the repeal of Georgia’s citizens arrest laws (i.e., their laws for legal vigilantilism).

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Which is why they are not taken seriously by anyone else on the political spectrum.

Oh no, the pedophiles don’t take us seriously, how sad.

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This isn’t hard to understand at all. Unless you want to throw out the laws that define our society and perscribe to vigilante justice based on feelings, instead of evidence and juries.

A jury of his peers found Trump guilty of being a rapist, but I have yet to see a single “law and order!!! we have to rely on evidence and juries!!!” Trump follower acknowledge that.

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The eXtReMe LeFt!

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