25 points

The only circumstance under which I could ever see myself having children is if I lived in China. Even that would be a bit scary as long as USA still exists.

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1 in 4 gen z-ers say they won’t have kids due to being gay and trans :spectre-of-gender:

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You jest, but I see this as the new angle for homophobia.

: “Those dang lgbt folk, we ordered them to have kids…but they’re in relationships where they CANNOT produce kids! No, you can’t just adopt and raise a child in foster care…you’re shirking your responsibility to give us more cattle!”

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We have a complex and frankly fragile system of family members who care for one another’s kids and maintain specific work schedules so that one grownup is always available in my family, that we built from scratch (not really from a cultural background where this is the norm, it’s out of necessity) and it’s frankly the only way my family has been able to support any children.

I’m genuinely not sure how a person pays for rent/mortgage, utilities, gas and food while also paying the kinds of prices that childcare costs in even low COL areas of the US.

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The only happy parents I know have family who regularly watch their kids, including overnight stays. The kids love it because they spend time with more family, and my friends love it because it means they still have time to work and do things for themselves outside of childcare. I frankly don’t know how the average atomized American family copes with raising children.

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It’s called the nuclear family because of how atomized we are :kelly:

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26 points

Isn’t that literally true?

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24 points

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I frankly don’t know how the average atomized American family copes with raising children.

Apparently they are coping very poorly, as per recent surveys:

“After breaking out responses from people with children under age 18, the APA reported that 48 percent of those parents and caregivers describe themselves as completely overwhelmed.

“The parent-specific breakdown also found that 41 percent said most days they “were so stressed they couldn’t function” — double the number reported by non-parents — while 42 per cent said they were so stressed they felt numb.”

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I hate being reminded that it costs money to go to the hospital and get your baby delivered in the US. Yeah it’s super expensive having a kid but i didn’t have to pay $10k+ to have it removed from my partner

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Just dont pay the bill

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14 points

-1000 credit score checkmate tankie

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I think you can renegotiate the bill and do really low monthly payments if you end up in that situation

Tho now that you mention it I don’t think Ive ever noticed my credit score being affected much by the medical bills I never payed

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All “healthcare” executives should experience their skin being flayed from their bodies

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“skin to skin” hospital bill

Wtf, what is the hospital doing here?

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It’s a fee for allowing the mother to hold her baby because that’s how fucked up our society is

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I was under the impression many people just don’t pay hospital bills?

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15 points

That’s what I’d probably do

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39 points

I know a lot of people who want to have kids (or more than one kid) who won’t because it would financially ruin them, and I live in a cheap ass rust belt city.

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