Well, the issue will be developers of other apps would force us to re-google since any build of the app would be useless unless installed from the play store…
MicroG devs are working on fakeing play integrity api since 2023: https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/issues/2050
it seems that play integrity continue to change internally day to day… He is waiting that google stabilize it. Then will be a pull request.
Are they? Other comments in different PRs seem to indicate they have no intention of trying to subvert play integrity. Is there something more recent than this that indicates they’re trying?
For every single app where the developer tries this?
Yeah right. That’s unsustainable.
They’ll also just increase ways for the integrity to verify it hasn’t been patched. This announcement already says they’re checking the app’s binary for tampering.
You can degoogle on Android you know. Takes some effort, but the end result is better than moving into a walled garden.
You can degoogle on Android you know.
only if your device is supported. Most aren’t…
Something AOSP like Lineage OS
You can install MicroG if you need play compatibility
Well that’s an easy fix. I just won’t use those apps.
So no banking apps for you? I agree that this is shit, but pretending we are not hit by this is not helping.
Also, I don’t really use banking apps anyway because they already pull similar shit and I can get around it. For now.
Fortunately so far I haven’t come across a bank here in the Netherlands that wouldn’t work because my phone was rooted or because I’m running grapheneos. Hope it stays that way too.
Correct. I’ve never used banking apps in the first place anyway. If my bank doesnt have a functional website then I would change banks.
And i say this not to be difficult or contrarian. I just really hate using apps for every business in existence and simply refuse to do so. Yes I have absolutely sacrificed convenience on many occasions due to this principal.
Very good. I don’t like using apps for every little shitty website like discord or WebEx either.
Just know that this is a step forward in the direction of making it technically possible to force people to usw the app. Ask yourself if you trust them to not try and profit from this.
I don’t know what you mean by that. Do you mean you rather use google pay?
With banking apps in particular this lock down is ultra-stupid.
Like, I have to use your super secure app, or I can just… visit your page in a web browser running on god-knows-what with whatever extensions in any computing environment or OS of my choosing? But not using Google Play is where they draw the line.
Not a single app on my phone was installed through Google Play, it’s all Aurora. Guess if apps really do this i’ll just have to stop using them, cause I’m not installing the play store.
I wish i can degoogle my phone but its a few months old so no rom support and its a samsung :<
this is the reason phone selection for me is based on what it supports.
but samsungs are ruled out anyway. their service centers desttoys your phone if you have asserted your ownership of it, their software is way too unnecessarily complicated (not the part you see, but the low level part that complicates the flashing process), and they are generally a garbage company.
oh yeah you have to use their own software to flash but i never had samsung destroyed by them and they killed samsung dex pc app for mac but i think in a few years rom support for my phone will improve and there is also gsi roms you can use
Samsung isn’t one of the best for roms. Anyway you could stop using it while you port Lineage OS
How is it being a samsung making things worse? I’ve never flashed a samsung phone before so I may be very wrong, but isn’t unlocking the bootloader easy?
And now that I think about, does samsung have their own system file format or something? Is that the issue?
Quick question: what is the advantage of using Aurora to get apps instead of the Play Store?
I have Aurora but i don’t understand that, afaik both use the same APKs and can update interchangeably?
At first I thought Aurora remove some of the app’s tracking beacons but that’s not the case.
What if I sideload purely to downgrade a bugged app? Just seems like yet another kick in the teeth by Google.
Google’s only providing the option, it’s up to individual devs to enable it on their app. If the app developer has chosen to block sideloading, then they probably have a reason for going out of their way to do so. Whatever you find that reason to be should inform your decision whether or not to continue using their app.
Their reasons mean nothing. It’s my device. I shouldn’t have to worry about an application installed on my device being policed because the developer got a hair up their ass about people downgrading.
The phrase “more secure” is becoming meaningless as it keeps being used as a blanket excuse for literally every user hostile change.
Sure, it’s your device. But it’s their app. Ultimately, it’s the developer’s call to make. You don’t have to use their app.
Explain to me what would be the good reasons McDonald’s has to block their app from running on a rooted device because it doesn’t pass SafetyNet or whatever Google is calling it now
Why would I explain something that has nothing to do with this discussion? This has nothing to do with rooted devices.
BOOOOO!
YOUR DECISIONS ARE BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.
google, not op
