Even so devoted a bootlicker as Senator Lindsey Graham declared the debate a “disaster” for the ex-president.

Donald Trump is so feral and narcissistic, so unrestrained and so outside the norm of American politics, that he’s difficult to debate. It’s disorienting. Very few people have been able to stand up to him without being pulled into the muck. In the past, even when he lost debates on points, he dominated his opponents.

But on a Tuesday night in Philadelphia, Kamala Harris cracked the code.

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I’m confused why people think Kamala won the debate - she was just regurgitating pre prepared meaningless lines.

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Did you hear trump? He didn’t answer a single question, ranted about eating pets half the time, talked about how big his rallies are, and yeah that was all he did.

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So it’s expected from Trump. Kamala didn’t answer any questions either but for some reason is getting a pass. She is just regurgitating cheap slogans, what good is that?

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If kamala didn’t win who did? Because it certainly wasn’t trump.

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Imo they both sucked

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If you had to say one of them won, who would you pick?

I don’t disagree that there wasn’t a ton of useful information in the debate, there was barely room for anyone to talk actual policy, but Harris came across as a rational human who at least pretended to care about others while Trump was a blabbering idiot.

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She clearly and concisely responded the questions she was obviously going to be asked. You may disagree with the answers, or you may just not like politicians, but she was obviously prepared and professional.

Donald rambled, lied, and went off topic constantly. He spent more time talking about what Kamala said than his own policy. When he was pressed on policy he had unclear answers or dodged entirely (e.g. “concepts of a plan”).

He came across as unhinged, bordering on detached from reality, and he seemingly doesn’t have any plan or vision for the country, except that it definitely isn’t project 2025 (except it probably is). He was undeniably more interesting to watch, but not in a good way. Based purely on the debate from last night it’s not clear if he’s fit to lead a book club, let alone a nuclear superpower.

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That’s what debates have been pre-Trump.

There were never any surprises. They were expected to be composed and articulate.

It was mostly about getting voters to tune in at prime time because despite there being round the clock news, most people don’t actually pay close attention to politics.

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I remember now what I always hated about debates, they were always boring reminder that both parties are the same

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I recognize the feral and narcissistic paragraph from somewhere else. Source for this?

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It was super effective. I am surprised he didn’t faint

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Breaking a broken old man is just the purview for a black female cop.

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I see what you did there.

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Liberals should be careful with this. Y’all want them to feel like Trump did alright. We can’t have him being switched out at the 11th hour for a more competent candidate

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That wouldn’t work. The idiots are voting for Trump not the Republican party. If they replaced him the idiots would see that as the Republicans betraying them. Then they would split the vote and write trumps name in anyway. Complete victory for Dems in that scenario

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I don’t know. That might help accelerate the disintegration of the GOP.

But like others have said, if he’s alive he’s running.

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Trump would rather die than not be the center of attention. He’s a narcissist, not feeling like the center of attention literally feels like dying. His ego wouldn’t allow it. His fear of going to jail wouldn’t allow it. And the fact that the republican party would implode wouldn’t allow it.

The scary thing (for Republicans) is that their whole party is currently held together by hairspray, orange spray tan solution, and Depends diapers.

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When Trump goes, the rest will tear each other to shreds. As insane as he is, he’s the figure who’s holding it together. Like a fat gormless toad sitting on a stone in the middle of the pond.

As an outsider to American politics, I predict a (temporary) collapse in support for the Republican party the minute he’s ousted.

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Trump cannot drop out. As long as he’s alive, he’s running.

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rfk jr was too late to withdraw for filing deadlines, I have no idea what would happen if trump withdrew. His only way out of this is to kill JD Vance and make it look like a democrat did it.

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