Even so devoted a bootlicker as Senator Lindsey Graham declared the debate a “disaster” for the ex-president.

Donald Trump is so feral and narcissistic, so unrestrained and so outside the norm of American politics, that he’s difficult to debate. It’s disorienting. Very few people have been able to stand up to him without being pulled into the muck. In the past, even when he lost debates on points, he dominated his opponents.

But on a Tuesday night in Philadelphia, Kamala Harris cracked the code.

192 points

Trump was always broken. Harris just drew attention to it in the right way.

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no but she really hacked him like a cyberpunk runner.

the issue of immigration is her worst and his best polling issue. so when she was answering that question she added this part about crowds leaving his rallies early. the moderator moved past that and almost helped him by refocusing the question on immigration but he just couldn’t let it go. he not only focused on the crowd remark, but also went immediately unhinged, screaming about people eating cats.

it’s like a fucking cheat code. look at his reaction to her saying people have early. it’s like the sound the game makes to let you know the cheat code is activated.

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Right? Such an obvious trap and he jumped into it, head first. Fascinating to see

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To attack a narcissist, you need to attack the cracks in the reality they paint for themselves.

It just so happens that as someone who has been an enthusiastic and professional grade debater for 40+ years, Harris also knew exactly how to do this without getting his mud on herself, and she knew to do it just as he was hoping to hit his stride.

It was great to watch. So many politicians from so many walks of life have been completely humiliated by Trump’s ridiculous persona. He’s so inflammatory, so full of lies, and so narcissistic professional politicians have been reduced to flinging his poo back at him. Instead Harris made him wallow in it.

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Holy crap she got me too!

I didn’t realize she pulled out that bait on the immigration issue! That was calculated as fuck!

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her campaign is so fucking competent, it’s refreshing. she had the taylor swift ace up her sleeve and planned to play it that day no matter what

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Yea, I feel like I didn’t see anything new from him. Kamala just lead him around like a dog on a leash, and exposed it better than anyone else has.

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I don’t even think the immigrants would eat that dog

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She applied the McGinnis technique.

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One thing I’ve come to believe is that the extended media reaction to a debate affects public opinion more than the debate itself. The media don’t quite dictate viewers’ judgments, but they shape and solidify them. And what this string of posts is making clear is that on the day after Donald Trump is still losing the debate. He’s probably going to try to stage some dramatic bullshit to derail this media train.

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Very astute observation. I think the only thing I disagree with is that I personally think the media do to a large extent directly dictate viewers judgements. Which makes the rest of your points even more salient.

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He’s going to eat a live dog to prove how hawrable it is.

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You projected puppy crunching noises and fur-muffled trump gagging noises into my brain, and it was so vivid I felt it would be a shame not to share that imagery with you. <.<

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Absolutely. If the media outlets had decided that Trump won, then Trump won. Almost no one actually watched the debate. They only looked at “highlights” curated for them.

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I mean, overnight numbers suggest it’s a second most watched TV event since Superbowl, but you’re not wrong in that people don’t necessarily pay attention or process it. Highlights are the part people grab onto and boy do we have a lot of good ones.

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Do you have a link to the numbers, please? I’m curious if the international numbers are reported separately.

(Me and at least three other households I know watched it in Canada. My friend in VA did not, and hadn’t even heard about Fido til I mentioned it this afternoon.)

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I understand my very presence on lemmy makes me less representative of the mean but I was hooked from start to finish.

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Wouldn’t be surprised if he replaced Vance with RFK Jr now as that would kill discussion of the debate.

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He arguably can’t.

He and vance are on the ballot. So is RFK, funny enough. Which is why RFK is trying to get off the ballot in swing states. The reason Biden could tag Kamala in is that the DNC had not actually chosen a candidate yet.

My suspicion is that an exception would be made rather than run into the mess of leaving republicans unelectable in states. But it would still be a giant shitshow and not in a good way.

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This may be a cynical take, but it would still be Trump on the top of the ticket, and the media would be immediately distracted from his debate failure. He would most likely come out ahead in the end.

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That motherfucker been broke.

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He’s been broke for a long time. The only thing he actually owns is debt, which he will never, ever pay.

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He should resign. Clearly he isn’t capable.

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Resign from what, life? I’m on board that’s just an odd phrasing

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Would not object. It’s been a good run, Donald.

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Hes never had a good run

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Shhh. You don’t have to lie. Not to him. At this point, I don’t think anyone’ll have to even tug on his reins; he’ll walk to the back shed on his own. Pick up the shells after. Don’t litter.

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🌎👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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