Students in Massachusetts will get free lunch and breakfast at school thanks to a new 4% tax put on people who earn more than $1 million.

192 points

We need different terms for people who HAVE a million dollars and people who MAKE a million per year. Lots of people will read this millionaire’s tax and think it will apply to them when they are nearing retirement since they finally have a million dollars after saving all their life.

permalink
report
reply
70 points

That’s what the campaign to quash the bill did. That, and tried to convince people that they might have a single multi-million-dollar transaction in their life (like selling a large successful business) and have to pay an extra 4% on it.

Always a push to get the “temporarily embarassed millionaire” to support the reach. “Yeah, yanno. My little lawmowing operation that makes me $20,000 coild sell for over a million and then I’m fucked”

permalink
report
parent
reply
30 points

Ah, the Philip J. Fry mentality

“someday I might be rich, and then people like me better watch their step”

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

We need different terms for people who HAVE a million dollars and people who MAKE a million per year.

We have them. The first is referred to as “Wealth” or “Worth” and the other is referred to as “Income”. Therefore what Mass instituted is called an Income Tax.

permalink
report
parent
reply
132 points

It’s easier to sell a tax hike if you know exactly where it’s going :)

permalink
report
reply
105 points

Unless you’re Waukesha, Wisconsin, where they specifically voted to stop giving kids handouts (i.e. free lunch). Because, you know, kids should work for their food or something instead of using their energy to learn.

permalink
report
parent
reply
48 points

probably the same people that say abortion is murdering kids…

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points

I mean, cheap labor has to come from somewhere… Where do you find empoverished people to exploit if you don’t force births?

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

Of course it is. But you know, kids lives only really matter up until they are born. At that point the kids, their parents and their livelihoods and happiness…all that can fuck right off.

permalink
report
parent
reply
31 points

kids just don’t want to work anymore these days. they’re too busy with their avocados and ipad games. meanwhile the child unemployment rates are at historical highs. won’t someone think of the economy?

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

💀

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points

Waukesha County is by far the most conservative in the state, and has been playing a massive role in destroying our state’s democratic process for a few decades now.

Another fun fact about it is that they’ve been trying for years to glom onto the Lake Michigan watershed, which, geographically, it is not a part of. They want to straight up take our water, which they do not need, in exchange for nothing whatsoever of any real value.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Yeah it’s a cesspool that way.

I live in the mke area and when looking for housing Waukesha was a tempting area because of how much more house you can get for the money, but I just don’t think I can handle living there. Not to mention I want my kids going to schools in a community that gives a shit about kids and their education.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

“It’s about time these kids had some skin in the game!”

-Some Republican Somewhere I’m sure.

permalink
report
parent
reply
118 points

The descriptor “free” misleads - this is exactly the type of thing taxes were always meant to pay for.

permalink
report
reply
38 points

This I have always hated the “FREE STUFF!” talking point and how the mainstream bought it.

I’m not talking about demanding some middle class guy be forced to buy me an Xbox, but rather I’m asking multiple billionaires start paying just a little more in taxes (instead of ya know… constant rebates for “cReAtInG JoBs”) so that little Timmy doesn’t die of untreated pediatric cancer.

permalink
report
parent
reply
28 points

It’s mad that children could some how not deserve or accumulate debt to eat. It’s even more mad that its exactly what happens.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

It’s also mad that this is also the case for adults. When you turn 18, you shouldn’t suddenly lose basic rights (like access to food and shelter), but that’s exactly what most capitalists want to happen (and so that’s how it works).

Goods with inelastic demand shouldn’t be driven by the profit motive. Food, healthcare, housing, etc. We can let luxury goods stay within the private sector for now since people don’t need them to survive, and come back to that conversation at a later date.

permalink
report
parent
reply
105 points

Free school meals should be a given since our taxes should go to what our elected officials have so thoughtfully decided where to apply them. What no one rarely brings up let alone tries to solve is the disgusting and unsafe food that the local, state and fed officials decide to make available. There’s too much politics in cafeteria food. They should focus there budget in getting healthy food not the cheapest, uncles cousins or corporate friend contract.

permalink
report
reply
41 points

Yes, we 100% should be using our school kitchens as kitchens, not just reheating premade “GFS Food.”

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

GFS food would be an upgrade over what most are using.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

… what are they using?

permalink
report
parent
reply
-38 points

Reason why #3648393847 why representative democracy simply does not work.

permalink
report
parent
reply
23 points

When making that argument, you’ll want to add a few examples.

Otherwise people think you mean dictatorship.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Switzerland has a direct democracy and they are doing perfectly fine.

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

The vast majority (262 out of 351) of Massachusetts municipalities are direct democracy. A further 31 are near enough that it’s not hard to be elected if you run (my precinct has empty rep. slots every year).

Also in contrast to the rest of the US, there are no unincorporated areas (“county land”) in Massachusetts. Counties aren’t a useful demarcation here. Everything is a Town or a city.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

The rest of the U.S. needs to switch to something similar.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

I think you might be confusing representative democracy with capitalism.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-5 points

Nah, I mean representative democracy. Trusting someone else to work in your best interests never works. The only one who has your best interests in mind is you, if that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

I think what is missing is control over the representatives. When you elect someone, you give them your power, you should be able to take it back when they abuse it.

In a representative democracy, transparency and control are key and when this is not enforced, people tend to think the system is broken and does not work. It would work if that is fixed

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

People shouldn’t be giving their power away at all, but fair.

permalink
report
parent
reply
76 points

It’s not a free lunch. It’s just your taxes going to something you actually benefit from.

permalink
report
reply
28 points

No shit. It literally says where the money that pays for it comes from right in the headline.

permalink
report
parent
reply
21 points

I think the point of the comment was that in the last few decades the rhetoric has been: “Taxes bad” “Government provides free bus passes to underprivileged people” Always divorcing taxes from their positive effects on society. Maybe they were trying to fight that by directly uniting the fact that the government is just a coordinator, collecting taxes and using it to buy lunches for kids.

“4% tax on millionaires pays for breakfasts and lunches for all school children” unlike the above example, is a sentence that reminds people that taxes are what provides these many positive social benefits they recieve, not “the government”, not “for free”, and that taxes aren’t always “bad”.

Or maybe I’m projecting!

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Yeah but le redditor needs to show us how much smarts he is.

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

Of course it is free for the children.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Which I’m ok with

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

“Nothing is free. Free isn’t actually a word!”

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

So you’re implying that people regularly make $1,000,000 in annual income by working? Only about 150,000 people in the US make that much. It’s their money.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-22 points

Kids don’t pay taxes. It’s a free lunch.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

This comment is just an extreme lack of understanding of any tax system there is, which is wild.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

Something that is free for one person will necessarily cost money for another. But for the kids, it’s free.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points
*

Imagine being this fucking pedantic. This place is legit reddit 2.0 and that’s a bad thing.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

This comment is just an extreme lack of understanding of millionaires

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

For the children and the families of the children, it is free

I can’t believe you have the upvoted comment.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-16 points
Removed by mod
permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

Most of everything is free for kids. What’s your point?

permalink
report
parent
reply

News

!news@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil

Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.

Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.

Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.

Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.

No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.

If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.

The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

Community stats

  • 14K

    Monthly active users

  • 20K

    Posts

  • 521K

    Comments