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This is the inevitable outcome of the combination of the proliferation of guns in the US + the over-the-top fearmongering of certain high-profile personalities (specifically on the right). It was never going to end any other way.

Scare people into thinking everyone is out to get them and tell them they have to arm themselves, and you get tragedies like this: the guy that shot a teenaged girl through his front door when she was looking for help. This kid shot in the face looking for a place to take pictures.

People like Tucker Carlson and all similar scaremongers (too many to name) are partly to blame for this. I’m old enough to remember the red scare, where average people thought communists were hiding in every suburban neighbourhood, and also the satanic panic – this is all that but on steroids.

Everyone isn’t out to get you. They never were. But people are becoming millionaires by riling people into killing each other *for no reason *, and unlike back then, now everyone is armed and convinced to shoot first like every place is the fucking OK Corral.

e: and to add a layer of irony, yes, Wild West high-noon shootouts are the same kind of myth-sayings as boiling frogs – pretty much all old west towns required you to surrender your guns to the sheriff on entry. Things were actually safer back then.

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As someone who grew up near those wild west towns and have a lot of roots out here, yeah it’s a myth, most people I knew growing up didn’t even hunt, and most hunters I knew owned two guns tops and it WASN’T their personality, inviting you over to eat venison was their personality.

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It’s not even a Wild West town, it’s conifer. It’s a rich person Mecca. Anyone that has a gun up there is most likely just using it to scare off wolves or bears, but not actually hunting (source, my in-laws live there).

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Or come help me butcher this boar and I’ll let you take home a couple pounds of sausage.

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I spent a lot of my childhood in Arizona, and we did field trips in school to ‘ghost towns’ (e: the old west towns), Montezuma’s Castle (back when you could actually walk through it before vandals ruined it for everyone), and Pueblo ruins with indigenous living history reenactors.

I never even saw a modern gun in person until I was 16. It just wasn’t a thing. And yet we managed to survive.

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Yeah, grandmother grew up in a family that had been poor farmers outwest, and midwest for a long time. They had like 10 guns, but that is because there was one rifle per person over the age of 12, plus a couple shotguns. Not for like having a shoot-out, but for killing problematic predators. Only my great grandfather had a hand gun, and he only had that because it was a gift from someone he did a bunch of work for. He rarely took it out of the box.

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23 points

Oh shit, my gun just went off

I’m not sure what he was expecting the gun to do. You never point at anything or anyone you don’t intend to destroy. Treat every gun as if it has a hair-trigger.

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Reminder that guns don’t just “go off” and anyone that suggests this should be disregarded as the nincompoop they very clearly are.

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guns certainly do “just go off”

That’s why you secure them, unload them, store them safely.

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Pointing a gun at something should be treated with the same severity as pointing it at something and pulling the trigger. Yes, police included.

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Confiscate the fucking town councilman’s guns, prosecute the dumbass for attempted murder and hopefully the teen will sue the living shit out of him.

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From reading the story it sounds like the guy wasn’t trying to kill the teen, he’s just a giant irresponsible dumbass who should never had a gun in the first place, making all of them victims of the toxic US gun culture

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I was taught when I first started shooting guns when I was 5 that you only point a gun at something that’s alive when you don’t want it to be alive anymore.

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Hell I was never around guns as a kid and I was still taught this at a similar age.

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It had to be raised and pointed to have a bullet go through the windshield and hit someone in the face. Don’t make excuses for the guy

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