I started doing amateur astrophotography last year with a camera, lens and startracker.
The way it works is you take dozens or hundreds of photos of the same thing, then combine them into one final image, a process called “stacking”.
To gather faint light, each photo is a long exposure gathering light for 30 - 120 seconds.
I have therefore taken over 20.000 long exposure shots of the night sky, pointing at different things, using wider and narrower lenses and NOT ONE SINGLE CLICK came without a Starlink streaking across the frame.
That’s fucking crazy, especially to think this wasn’t even a problem (on the same scale) more than 5 years ago.
What focal length do you normally shoot at? My rig is at 610mm and I get satellite trails mostly around dusk/dawn, but they all get rejected out during stacking
The ISS is visible from any single point you’re standing on for up to about a minute when passing directly overhead and then the next orbit isn’t close enough for you to see.
Some comm and weather sats here and there but really nothing crazy. It was even fun to have individual shots with a streak on it cause it was a relatively rare occasion.
Now there’s just no hiding from it. Yes, the process of stacking images averages out the streaks in the final image, but for the average person with a wide lens taking a milky way shot during summer camping it’s basically impossible to not have like 5 streaks on it.
I’m a nobody using my phone to take the occasional image stack using Google’s “night sight” mode on my Pixel 7 Pro. Out of the 30 or so pictures I’ve taken, one has a Starlink Trail.
Not necessarily a “starlink trail” you took a photo of a satellite, could be starlink could be something else. Also the astrophotography mode on the pixels is purdy cool and fun to mess around with
Wow nice! If this was with the phone on a tripod or generally stationary that might be more than one trail, looks like 3 lines grouped up.
You can also see the Andromeda galaxy above it which is awesome for a phone!
Haha, that’s not the best astro photo I’ve taken with my phone. It’s not even in focus. 😅 Let me dig up another. And yes, I knew that was Andromeda. It’s pretty cool that it captured it.
Here are the Northern Lights during the recent Perseid meteor shower with some stars.
Ironically, I couldn’t really see the Northern Lights with my own eyes. It was foggy out, and they were very faint, but my phone’s astro mode could see them. I even have videos, because the camera app always makes a 1 or 2 second video from the individual images while taking an stacked astro photo.
Here’s one that shows the Milky Way pretty well.
Out of that 120 second long exposure:
- how long was a satellite visible?
- how many frames out of how many did it stay in place?
- was its movement similar to any natural phenomena you were capturing?
Certainly this is a problem and will only get worse, but it really seems like the room and gloom is excessive and it ought to be reasonable to filter out
Sadly I blame everyone but starlink. It provides internet to rural areas that otherwise don’t have any viable high speed internet. Feds and states should have done anything to make sure these areas were being served. They weren’t and as a result $120/mo internet is reasonable.
You speak about the US but it fucked the sky up for the entire planet, for all of us.
Fucked up the sky for all of us? Who is “all of us”? Most of “us” live in mega cities with so much light pollution it blots out the night sky. Everyone in these horrid concrete jungles has high speed internet and absolutely no connection to the stars. Many of these people have never even seen the stars.
The ones living outside of these cities are the minority, and now they have internet. An internet they have been promised to the tune of countless billions for a very long time. They see the stars every night. Starlink has not impacted their connection with the stars at all.
So I am genuinely curious. Who, exactly, is the “us” you refer to?
And why are you not rallying against the light pollution that has denied billions access to the stars for at least generations?
What I meant was everybody who has access to the sky.
If you live in the city, you can travel a relatively short distance from it to see the sky, but you can’t avoid starlink satellites no matter where you are.
Mainly, I meant us who go out at night with their telescopes and adapters for DSLR cameras to take stacked long exposures of all the cool things we can see from our pale blue dot.
The lights you refer to are millions of different municipalities ordering street lights designed with zero consideration for the light pollution they might produce. It’s a huge problem with no easy fix on a global level while starlink is literally just one company launching a shitload of satellites. What exactly makes you believe I’m not “rallying” against light pollution?
And yes, I’m aware our space pollution is already insane but people wouldn’t complain this much if starlinks didn’t travel at a much closer distance to us (and thus and block more view) and if they weren’t launched in such huge numbers in a short amount of time.
Now that I think about it, what the fuck are you even saying? That this is good and we should launch more starlink satellites? That the situation is already that bad that we shoudn’t give a shit?
He’s kinda right though…
Remember when the US govt. provided incentives for major ISPs to upgrade\expand their service and they just kinda pocketed the money and did nothing? Imagine if they didn’t. We may not have had a need for starlink.
well maybe your right, maybe slowing down research and impeding the scientific progress of the human race is a small price to pay for getting Grandma in Bumfuck, Montana onto Facebook, and maybe these so called scientists should stop poking around the universe anyway, right ?
Like light pollution wasn’t bad enough now literally satellites are fucking it up for us. How depressing.
Oh great, another place where science and unchecked capitalism will clash. I wonder who the governments will support this time!
Wait until they start to orbit in formations representing company logos and serving us advertisements from space…
