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I was under the impression that “war with China” was at the top of the plans for over a decade now. I definitely remember seeing stuff like this years ago, and all that’s changed is the US is even more reliant on Chinese imports.

Is a war-time economy still good if your manufacturing sector can’t get 2/3rds of its raw materials?

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Are you kidding? The West went to war with Russia and then was actually flabbergasted Russia stopped the fuel exports. You’re talking about people with an orange between their ears. I’ve scraped stuff off my shoes that was more intelligent than Western European politicians.

EDIT: All that to say, America will still expect China to export what we need.

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It wasn’t even that, Russia was actually pretty happy to continue gas exports. Europeans stopped paying and were flabbergasted that after that Russian gas stopped coming in.

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I love that the causus belli is literally “vibes”

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There were some think tanks that stated that war in the SCS should ideally occur at the 2025 mark.

The thought process is that the US gets weaker every passing year while China gets stronger. So waiting any longer will be a detriment to US interests while increasing the odds for a smooth (and peaceful) reunification with Taiwan.

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Reminiscent of WW2

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it’s not just movies where we get constant remakes…

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Dude, the “reunification” stuff is ALL larp. Even the phrase makes no sense. The CPC has never controlled Taiwan. Throughout Chinese dynastic history, they didn’t care at all about Taiwan. It was a dangerous place of zero importance.

Also, Taiwan isn’t going to let some foreign country take over. This has never happened in the history of humans.

The CPC SHOULD have chased the KMT off of Taiwan or PREVENTED them from going in the first place. THAN they would have been welcomed just like the KMT were first initially welcomed because they weren’t Japanese colonizers that treated Taiwanese like 2nd class citizens. (Obviously the KMT turned out to be worse - more oppressive, more violent, didn’t care at all about developing the country)

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The year is 2041. I’m rummaging through the streets of what was once, long ago, known as Seattle. I’ve long since turned off my Geiger counter - damn thing wouldn’t stop beeping. But the roving bands of Nazis will kill me faster than the radiation if I set out for the countryside. My travelling companion shouts - he’s found a place to make camp, with a mostly intact roof and a good view of the street. I move to the window to take first watch. As my companion lays down to bed he says, “Well you know, at least we saved the Uighurs. You know before all this happened my brother’s friend’s uncle who worked for the CIA told me the craziest stories about them…” and he drifts off to sleep. I contemplate whether to put a bullet into his head, or my own.

Wrote this like 3 years ago in response to someone on

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to be determined

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Can’t wait to see the Amerikkkan navy get sent straight to hell by a barrage of DF-21Ds within hours of shit going hot.

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Lol I just posted this, I need to check the news comm more before I post.

I’ll just drop my comment here: if the first BRICS transaction without the dollar occurs before the end of 2025, then China has an opportunity to significantly reduce trade with the dollar in retaliation for this war.

This is a major redline that the US is going to overstep, but China probably wouldn’t want to throw the world into a major recession for this since no one would benefit. The US is probably banking on keeping up trade with China should they send their navy into the SCS along with their “allies.”

But this hinges on whether or not China and associated BRICS trade partners can actually carry out transactions without the dollar.

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My expectation is that China would just focus on BRICS and trade with developing countries outside the dollar. I don’t really see why China would care all that much whether G7 economies go into recession as result of the US attacking China. In fact, this would likely force at least some G7 members to break with the US or see their economies collapse.

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I don’t really see why China would care all that much whether G7 economies go into recession as result of the US attacking China.

Everyone’s economy is connected, when the US went into recession in 2008 the world went down with it. That’s the problem with having a single reserve currency (this is eventually going to change but as for now that’s the reality). If that currency’s respective country shits the bed, then everyone else that relies on it for transaction will shit the bed too.

Obviously China doesn’t want a repeat of 2008 so it’s a toss up on whether they’ll quit trading with the US to pressure them to pull out of the SCS (and hurt the rest of the world in the process) or continue trading so that the world doesn’t enter a recession.

The big question is whether dedollarization is remotely feasible by the time the operation takes place.

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Everyone’s economy is connected, however as Russia showed already, it’s entirely possible to decouple for hostile economies. It’s also worth noting that China is very much aware of the dangers here and have been massively diverting their trade away from G7 https://asiatimes.com/2024/05/2-words-explain-china-export-surge-global-south/

If China stops trade in dollars, then other countries will just start using yuan, or perhaps the BRICS currency will go online by then. Either way, this is not an insurmountable problem by any stretch of imagination.

Meanwhile, what ultimately matters is the relative damage to BRICS vs G7 economies. This is also what we’re seeing playing out with the economic war on Russia where G7 economies are coming out worse off and as a result we’re already seeing a lot political instability in Europe.

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i dunno about BRICS transaction, whatever that officially means but cross trade using each other’s currency has already overtaken USD trade for some countries

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I think openly stating your war preparations against a nuclear country is a very smart thing to do.

In all seriousness, Comrade Xi, get on growing that nuclear stockpile

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