Element is launching the world’s first communications platform based on the upcoming Matrix 2.0 release. The result is blazing performance which outperforms the mainstream alternatives - across a decentralised system that enables self-hosting and end-to-end encryption - as well as open standard interoperability to revolutionise real time communication between large organisations.

Built on Matrix 2.0, Element X now rivals the performance of centralised consumer messaging apps, empowering organisations to address the shadow IT issues caused by consumer-grade messaging apps in the workplace.

The new Element communications solution consists:

  • Element X, our next-gen app with an array of new features
  • Element Call fully integrated into Element X, for native Matrix-encrypted voice and video
  • Element Server Suite, our backend hosting solution for powerful admin control and Matrix 2.0 performance
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“invisible cryptography” I sure hope this isn’t an empty promise. The number one gripe I have with matrix/element is the absolutely horrendous crypto dance they make you do.

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It’s probably the number one reason I can’t convince friends to move over, I know they would bawk at how it makes them do that on every device

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while I agree that there are too many problems right now, 2 things really can’t be avoided:

  • setting up key backup after registration asap
  • verifying your new logged in devices, possibly with the key backup password

well, unless they are fine with using it like signal, which is basically one device only

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Signal can have multiple devices, I have it on my phone and laptop.

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I studied cryptography and I can’t figure out how to do the dance right. I thought I did, but one of my contacts says they can’t read any message I send them. And I can’t message them to figure out why.

We haven’t spoken since. Thanks Matrix.

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What are you talking about? Even before this new “invisible cryptography” you set it up once per device and never have to think about it again.

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except for the “unable to decrypt” errors, and when new invitees can’t read previous messages

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I had just uninstalled Element X like two weeks ago because I found it to under perform compared to the normal Element client on Android, in addition to lacking some features. I guess I’ll give it another shot.

Update: WOW this thing feels lightning fast compared to just a few weeks ago. This is great. Not sure about feature completeness, but based on speed I think I’ll migrate Element > Element X again. Great job to the team!

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It hans’t changed speedwise for me. It has been lightning fast since it’s first release

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that’s interesting. I had found it fast initially when it was first released. I didn’t use it often but when I finally stared using Matrix more often I was bouncing between both and Element X was significantly slower than normal Element so I decided to uninstall just a few weeks ago. I had even tried un/reinstalling to see if it would fix it, but it didn’t. Much happier with it now.

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I guess it depends on the phone, but even if you didn’t notice it, it should be more efficient now with less resource usage (battery, ram)

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The last time I used element x was probably a couple months ago and I wouldn’t really call it ‘production ready’. But I guess I’ll have to try it again.

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I still don’t think it’s there, but development hss been fast, so a lot has changed and improved in the last couple of months.

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Element x still doesn’t have support for spaces. Trying to navigate between rooms just by scrolling through one huge list is a nightmare.

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Still no Spaces support. Even the short list of rooms I’ve joined are unmanageable when listed flat with no way to identify which Space a #general belongs to

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This is dependent on matrix-rust-sdk, when (if) it ends up supporting it, all apps using the SDK will be able to add support for spaces

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Spaces is an underused feature that I hope see gain more traction! It makes Matrix a credible competitor to Slack and Discord

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What do you mean by “spaces”?

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It’s the equivalent of discord servers

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I can’t use discord because they require phone numbers from users who use privacy tools.

What does this mean for people who don’t use discord?

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A way to group organize discover and control access to multiple Rooms.

Here’s an extra ironic Elements post describing them: https://element.io/blog/spaces-the-next-frontier/

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Not available on f droid yet it seems

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That release is quite out of date. See this issue

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My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

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The new release isn’t out on F-Droid my friend, last updated 3 months ago as of this comment.

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Schildi chat has SchildiNext on f-droid

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not on f-droid official yet, but on a separate repo. the page also refers to the list of customizations

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Indeed, probably in the coming days

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