cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/25481991
“The decision to end the cooperation agreement was taken in December 2023 when CERN’s Council passed a resolution “to terminate the International Cooperation Agreement between CERN and the Russian Federation, together with all related protocols and addenda, with effect from 30 November 2024; To terminate … all other agreements and experiment memoranda of understanding allowing the participation of the Russian Federation and its national institutes in the CERN scientific programme, with effect from 30 November 2024; AFFIRMS That these measures concern the relationship between CERN and Russian and Belarusian institutes and do not affect the relationship with scientists of Russian nationality affiliated with other institutes.” The cooperation agreement with Belarus will come to an end on 27 June, before the Russian one ends.”
So Russian scientists now get excluded from EU work, but Tennis players are still OK.
It’s insane that Russians can come here to earn money, while waging war against Europe at the same time.
That goes for any branch, be it entrepreneurs, scientists or art, it doesn’t matter, they should not be able to make money here. That should be a very obvious part of our embargo against Russia.
Depriving Russia of nuclear scientists, or capable people in general, might well be worth whatever wages they brought home.
If you want to bring the inter-european war into it I’m not sure if we can afford to be unpragmatic about this. By all accounts letting Russia bleed manpower in exchange for some small wages is well worth it. If you want to deprive them of money you really need to strike at their ability to export gas and oil at inflated prices. Advancing knowledge about fusion aids that goal, though the effects are likely (hopefully?) too late to matter.
It’s a real shame that Putin’s stupid and failed road trip is impeding a country with a long and decorated history in partical particle physics from contributing to the scientific community.
Russians please don’t lie down and accept this, get that twat thrown out of the top floor of the Kremlin.
Not downplaying, but to help your spelling, it’s particle in this situation.
As well they should. Russia and Belarus should never be allowed to normalize this, and that should include ostracization in literally every aspect of their existence. You want to launch genocidal, imperialist invasions, run sham elections for a fascist oligarch, repress your citizens, blatantly kill political rivals day in and day out including outside of your own territory, sell arms to Myanmar’s military, buddy up with North Korea and the Syrian government, send mercenaries to Africa to make things even worse there, cause ecological disasters in service of your illegal invasions, outlaw the expression of sexual and gender minorities, threaten war so flippantly that all of your western neighbors feel the need to join a defensive pact, interfere heavily in foreign elections to put fascists into power, and otherwise be one of the biggest, most backward shitholes on the planet? Then we’ll treat you as such.
How to turn your country into North Korea, 101.
