My personal thoughts
At first it came off a bit whiney, but I watched the entire thing and I’m glad I did. It shows a pattern of carelessness and in some cases complete douchebaggery of LMG.
What they did to Billet Labs is absolutely un-fucking excusable. LMG and Linus, in particular, needs to be mercilessly shamed for that until Billet Labs gets a clear and unequivocal apology and paid restitution for damages. Fucking shameful. What a bunch of pricks.
Video Description
This video is not monetized. This video covers our serious concerns regarding the data accuracy of Linus Media Group, including Linus Tech Tips, ShortCircuit, and TechQuickie, particularly as it relates to rushing content out the door to favor – by staff’s own admission – quantity over quality. As the company continues to expand into its LTT Labs direction, the importance of accurate data increases; however, even as ‘only’ entertainment, there are still certain responsibilities to the consumer and the manufacturers to report fairly (and to have defined corrections processes in place). We tried to approach this as objectively as possible and hope that viewers are able to listen to the evidence we present, particularly as it relates to significant and frequent data errors that now present in nearly every technical review video.
What a bunch of pricks.
I hesitate to blame them all. In GN’s video, some of the clips show LMG people seeming (to me? Somehow I don’t see anyone else pointing this out???) anxious to terrified of Linus. In one of the WAN Show clips there’s this meek, near-mumbled kind of “Uhm… Linus sir maybe if you’d, um… just tested it properly that could’ve been maybe better I guess? <.< v.v;” sort of thing, and the person who grabbed the wrong card barely squeaked out a response at all, but Linus just never seems to give a damn about anything except making the quickest possible bucks.
I don’t know what’s keeping everyone else there but I think at least some of those people are just trying to get by without incurring some kind of wrath as Linus himself repeatedly makes (or causes) a mess then arrogantly doubles, triples, quadruples down on it (or has someone else do so, or maybe other arrogant pricks are involved?) up to a point of “Okay, I messed up and I’ll own that now everyone forget about it” after which business-as-usual resumes until the next mess. It seems like no one else has time to learn from any mistakes (or “mistakes”) and those who do (presumably a hierarchy-related privilege) are unwilling or incapable.
Now, they may in fact be a bunch of pricks. I just feel like some of those people (such as the one suggesting that testing the water block correctly might made sense (before potentially killing a startup unfairly)) try to help but have no power to inhibit Linus’s pompous profit-driven pissheadery.
I can not watch the video now but I have read description.
Thing is I see them more as entertainers than IT professionals, so I don’t expect any valid data from them. If not before, it became obvious with the whole Linux for a month fiasco where he complains that it’s Linux’s falult he deleted important packages.
But I get it, youtube is forcing this dramatic, often, high performing videos on all creators. You can see it explained very often by various youtubers.
Of course they care more about quantity, because Algorithm will punish them for not publishing and they will disappear.
No one living from youtube can not be trusted right now, they are all forced to publish often clickbity dramatic videos.
I watched the occasional LTT video, they are entertaining and helpful at a general understanding but I’ve often taken their data with a grain of salt.
Emily (formerly Anthony) Young was the one writer at LTT who stood out as really knowing their stuff. She also was their in-house expert with Linux! (*Note: nothing happened to her at LMG, I’m using past tense because I’m not up to date with the latest roles she might be in)
Linus has been way more focused on running the business than the tech, especially compared to his days at NCIX and some years after.
The Billet situation sounds like a fuckup. So long as they make it right with them I don’t care tbh.
The data integrity issues and way too frequent post-edit corrections is imperative for LMG to fix, if they want their media to be trustworthy (like if they’re hyping up their labs)
Luckily, they’ve said what the fix is themselves and it’s relatively simple. All it really takes is them to either slow down with the rate of content to be able to carefully review it, or bring on more hosts and editors so that mistakes and errors can be caught and re-shot before publishing, and that due diligence is applied when preparing a product review.
Linus’ response is just meh, not good nor bad. The one thing is I don’t buy is Linus’ line of “just talk to us”. The community told them plenty of times, the writers and Linus themselves were very well aware of the problems of rushing and releasing half-baked content. Even if GN told them, the direction they were going with Linus Media Group and the new CEO and the buyout offer and all of that suggests where LMG’s wouldn’t be concerned with it as much as making sure the timing of their content maximizes revenue. Data issues brought to them by GN and the community would be cast to the wayside with just a footnote and silent correction, maybe with a couple empty words sprinkled on top.
So I’ll say it again to Linus from a fellow Canadian, whether he’ll listen or not: “Slow down, bud!”
(Referring to other replies, sarcastically) I friggin’ love having people explain how it’s totally cool to do to people all’ the things they (or people like them, in relevant contexts) say not to! Like when five freaking people people show up, none citing so much as a blog post or having met a trans person once, explaining that it’s totally cool to deadname someone as long as it doesn’t bother the person doing the deadnaming.
I’m just a little tired of this “it’s fine and you’re the real problem for whining about it” (not quoting anyone currently present… I think) kind of attitude. Maybe I’d be singing a different tune if my convenience got to override everyone else’s comfort and even wellbeing.
Edit: At least I don’t feel so compelled to join Beehaw any more. Certainly not the uniformly careful bunch I’d, unreasonably I suppose, imagined. Silver linings!
I use her current preferred pronouns, there are multiple Emilys at the LMG team and for people that might not recognize who I’m talking about if they haven’t watched LTT for a while (since 3 months ago). I figured by adding “formerly”, I was clear that it’s a name she no longer goes by and doesn’t feel represented herself well.
I thought you had to refer to a person by their old name for that to be the case, not just mention the existence of a former name. I could be wrong though.
Using the name is still deadnaming. Think of it like this. If you changed your name from Jim to John and saw a friend on the street, would you want them to say, “Hi John formerly Jim”? You’d likely just want them to call you by what your name is now. Add to that the likely dysphoria caused by some using a trans person’s dead name, and it is now causing harm for no real reason. When in doubt, just call people what they want to be called.
Great video, a lot of the benchmark stuff I was unaware of because I don’t pay THAT much attention to the wider youtube review community, but I Did notice that waterblock review when it went up on LTT. Go and watch it, it’s honestly embarrassing how unprepared and silly it was. As a comedy sketch it’s fine, but as a review of a prototype it’s really really embarrassingly under prepared. It brings to mind something like an Asmondgold hardware review… “I don’t know, let’s just try this”.
To see they auctioned off a prototype device after that “review” is kinda disgusting (sorry for the hard word, but it’s how I feel).
i watch ltt for alex messing around, and every now and then a video of linus wasting money on cool testing equipment for some reason. I’ve always assumed GN is superior for actual testing.
My biggest problem right now with LTT:
He has literally admitted that they have too much to do right now (see https://linustechtips.com/topic/1526180-gamers-nexus-alleges-lmg-has-insufficient-ethics-and-integrity/page/27/#comment-16079025)
but at the same time he doesn’t see the need to reduce the number of videos to achieve the required quality and just tells people to “stay tuned”.
I find that very strange to be honest.
His comment didn’t address two key issues for me:
- The “crunch”/tight scheduling of projects which led to sloppiness to begin with
- The constant need to correct, ranging from simple mistakes to very problematic methods.
I’ve been enjoying solely the WAN Show, but hearing about constant mistakes in benchmarks while praising “We want to show factual information on benchmarks for once.”, is rubbing me in the wrong way. You can’t rush benchmarking without QA and publish those results as fact. You get to choose for accuracy, or fast to churn content.
And Linus not mentioning something concrete on the first issue is worrying to me, not showing a clear intent to ease on rushing those benchmarks.
Not to mention, it’s worth taking down a video if benchmarka are wrong even if the conclusion is “most likely to remain the same”, which one cannot conclude with certainty without redoing it. It would be better transparency wise to either not knowingly publish wrong information, or put a more clear notice on said videos besides the description and a pinned comment.
It’s because Linus still has startup brain. He was squeezing blood from the stone for the first few years and his success then makes him believe that he needs to maintain that same mentality now.
Fortunately, he’s also realized that he doesn’t like running a large company and he’s hired a CEO. Unfortunately, said CEO is still stuck in his previous role and won’t actually be starting full-time for another few months. So now the company gets to sit in an awkward limbo of Linus checking out but Tarren not being ready to take over.
Once he is able to be a real CEO of LMG, I’m willing to bet things will start to dramatically change. Tarren has been running businesses as businesses for a while now and thus should know how to shape the company. He’ll be able to adjust the goals and fix the spends to align with those goals. Since the company is privately owned, as long as Linus doesn’t step on the process, it should go pretty well.
