I don’t know why I’m surprised they don’t but I really expected that maybe this time they would care even a tiny bit.
Like they kinda sorta cared a little bit about healthcare for a minute and that blew over, and then they kinda sorta cared about minority rights for longer than I expected so that was cool but these issues are actually kind of historically complex and difficult to solve so I wasn’t too surprised when libs just… fucking forgot. Climate change, me too, student loan debt…all sorta kinda complex in certain ways.
But genocide is so simple. It’s probably the least complicated issue that libs have ever had to confront. Bombs go out children go boom it cannot be less complicated.
And yet here we are with libs across America hand wringing about how well it’s maybe not genocide and maybe it’s somehow complicated and maybe we should talk about it after we defeat Trump who we’re SURE will do this complicated thing we can’t quite understand worse somehow.
I guess if genocide staring libs in the actual face isn’t enough to get them to care a tiny itty bitty bit about maybe trying to do something good for once…is there anything that possibly could? I can’t imagine much worse of a thing than literal genocide. Maybe libs are just wholly incapable of using their brains or their hearts in any capacity at all.
And if that’s the case is there any hope at all? I know there is but man this moment watching this election and everyone cheering wholeheartedly for as much genocide as they possibly can might be one of the most hopeless I’ve ever felt
This was the whole point of spending several decades telling American liberals that the global left is literally worse than nazis. Biden himself helped spread a myth about genocide being committed in China. Now your average lib believe the dems are the best thing even theoretically possible, so you just have to accept some genocide. It’s incoherent, but we haven’t been trained to think about politics in a rigorous way. The other problem is actual genocide doesn’t bother a lot of people.
“I think they’re both genocidal freaks.”
“Who are they genociding?”
“The Palestinians”
“So you think Kamala is worse than Cheeto head?”
It’s a smart play, really. You can’t deny genocide if you literally don’t comment on it or care about the core of my opinion (frustrating an oppressor is… le good! There are conditions where it would be unreasonable to condemn someone for violent resistance. The damage done to the oppressor in pursuit of the cessation of their subjugation is almost certainly irrelevant).
Biden himself helped spread a myth about genocide being committed in China.
In a vacuum, idfk. You probably could make some kind of argument regarding the very rapid industrial expansion of the Chinese bureaucracy into Xinjiang and the callousness with which state officials imposed national policy over the heads of locals.
But when Uighur=Genocide but Hamas=Had-it-Coming, what the fuck is any sane leftist supposed to say about China? We went from pointing to rapid urbanization of the western frontier and saying “This is a ruthless land grab by an imperial power!” to covering our eyes in Rafa and Beirut and Isfahan while shouting “Israel has a right to exist, okay!”
The other problem is actual genocide doesn’t bother a lot of people.
Genocide is just another political team sport. When the Bad Guys are doing genocide, its not bad because its the obliteration of whole population centers. Its bad because those populations were on Your Team and They’re Scoring Points Against You every time a swath of humanity gets culled like so much wheat caught in a combine. Israelis rant about Oct 7th because they’re upset Palestine put points on the board. That’s all.
It’s the same shit with Cuba and Venezuela and Haiti back on our side of the planet. The inhumanity is just Good Ethnicity scoring points on Bad Ethnicity. Its a big fucking game and we’re all just cheering for our side.
It’s the same shit with Cuba and Venezuela and Haiti back on our side of the planet.
What genocide did they commit? Please, we would like to know.
What genocide did they commit?
The US has been trying to alternately starve Cuba and Venezuela into submission and fuel armed insurrection since their respective revolutions began. And Haiti has been under siege for centuries. How long do you get to commit social murder before it qualifies as genocide?
Americans are utterly blase about this industrial killing. But as soon as Haitian migrants get to Ohio, they start to notice the violence that’s taking place inside their own borders. Democrats only seem capable of acknowledging the humanity of people once their inside the magic border line.
The inhumanity is just Good Ethnicity scoring points on Bad Ethnicity. Its a big fucking game and we’re all just cheering for our side.
please read a book
Also did you just fucking compare
the callousness with which state officials imposed national policy over the heads of locals
With Israel leveling hospitals in Gaza?
log off and jog on mate
the callousness with which state officials imposed national policy over the heads of locals
With Israel leveling hospitals in Gaza?
I can’t imagine a better comparison of ostensibly democratic state officials callously disregarding local public opinion than Biden sending bombs to Netanyahu to murder your Nan living abroad.
A few years ago, “let’s compromise and only do half genocide” was an over the top parody of how centrists think. It was deliberately hyperbolic and provocative because nobody seriously believes in “half genocide”, you would think.
Now liberals are actually arguing for voting for the Democrats on the basis that “both will aid the genocide but the republicans will aid it more and harm other groups too”.
Yeah I remember using that as a rhetorical tool to get people to understand why the answer doesn’t “always lie in the middle;” as the “middle” of “no slavery” and “full slavery to whoever we want” is “slavery for some,” which is still untenable — and same goes for genocide or any number of other terrible things. Now I get browbeaten by democrat-voters about how “not supporting some genocide is supporting full genocide!!!” While the democrats do full genocide anyway, too. But just leak “news stories” about how biden is grumbling and frustrated with Netanyahu, while going around congress to funnel guns and bombs to them as fast as possible
Libs don’t even actually care about genocides in their propaganda naratives. They’ll still say “Uighur genocide” but all they mean is “China bad.” They don’t actually care about it. That’s why they can’t fathom how some people refuse to vote for team blue over “one little issue”
They love calling things genocide because they have this idea in their head that word means you can’t disagree with them. They see how holocaust deniers are rightfully reviled, and their lib brains come to the conclusion that all accusations using the word genocide are somehow indisputable by nature
Amerikkka was founded on genocide, grown by slavery, and maintained by imperial exploitation of the global south. The libs fully realize that their lifestyles are dependent on crushing any opposition to empire, and so chose to ignore the atrocities that are committed in their name.
The libs fully realize that their lifestyles are dependent on crushing any opposition to empire,
maybe some in political power but the average american doesn’t know anything about any systems or their place in them
food comes from the grocery store.
As a Klanadian (little different), the average settler-Klanadian can at least recognize that their grocery store, their neighborhood, their entire country is built on stolen land whose theft sustained through consistent lowkey genocide. Some people can recognize how fucked that is (increasingly more, at least). Others will wring their hands, look the other way, and pretend they feel bad about it but “it is what it is” now (while harboring plenty of racist biases, etc). Others still will be actively supportive of retaining their hateful status quo, and a portion of all three demographics will engage in perpetuating it in one way or another, because that’s how their bread is buttered, if nothing else.
Same goes for AmeriKKKa, and same goes for the racial hierarchy and divide-and-conquer system across the west, the imperialist economic systems that sustain the west, etc. It’s easy to claim innocence, right up until the colored peoples (as an Asian myself) are becoming “competition,” right up until material, or even just social equality (nevermind even reparations to this group or that, or to the entire countries and nations lying in ruins, or the return of stolen goods) is brought to the table.
Not saying all Americans/white westerners are guilty, hell, the majority are varying degrees of ignorant as you describe and many are also genuinely innocent and appalled by the system. Liberals though certainly are exactly just as asg101 described though (those that aren’t, don’t remain libs for long), and for the rest- well, while I think there’s truth to what you both say, obviously and sadly I think it leans more in the negative direction, especially when push comes to shove.
They only care about genocide when they’re told to by talking heads on tv. They’re against Russia “genociding Ukraine” and “Uyghur genocide.” There was also that brief bit during SOSCuba when people were saying that Cuba was committing genocide.
Anything else is just too complicated. Even their own genocide. Disease killed all the natives. The centuries of targeted, mass genocide were only a tiny portion of it. Easy way to wipe their hands clean of any wrong-doing.
Edit: oh yeah, Sudan too. Only brought up as a “whataboutism” whenever people talk about Palestine. Like they actually give a shit about African genocide.
Edit: oh yeah, Sudan too. Only brought up as a “whataboutism” whenever people talk about Palestine. Like they actually give a shit about African genocide.
The response should be “Oh, do you want to discuss the OTHER massive human tragedy that’s being underwritten with US financing and weapons?”
They only care about genocide when they’re told to by talking heads on tv. They’re against Russia “genociding Ukraine” and “Uyghur genocide.” There was also that brief bit during SOSCuba when people were saying that Cuba was committing genocide.
To libs genocide is just something bad people/bad country does. I don’t think they actually care about genocide on any of those cases. Its justca way to say “(State Department designated enemy) bad.” I can’t imagine believing that a genocide was actually being conducted in a the world’s largest manufacturer and only ever using it as some sort of rhetocical point. Why aren’t they trying to BDS China? It’s because they don’t actually care.