Just a quick shower thought (I am literally typing this in the shower)

I think it might hit closer to home, because the insult (accusing someone of being loyal to the empire) is less abstract than insulting someone for having an unscientific world-view. Another benefit is that it makes us seem less like conservatives, and is harder to coopt by patsocs.

Obviously, the insult will probably only become effective if it spreads so that people know what is being referred to. And obviously, liberalism is still a menace.

What do you guys think?

Nah, fun idea except normies will just think we’re larping or some shit. if we’re vibing on labels i’m good to keep up with helping ‘liberal’ destroy itself. i want it so reviled in the us no one uses it to label themselves. I want it only whispered in quiet corners and spit out of mouths. I want to kick at its corpse and be cheered at.

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I sort of agree with this if only for the fact that once liberal takes on this widespread view lgbt people will distance themselves from it and I want that for the fact that radicalising lgbt movements is essential to making it a machine that is as effective at liberating itself as it once was.

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Neat, but reading it in my head in a sentence makes me feel like a over-exaggerated Fallout character.

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patriot (derogatory) is better but liberals think there’s a difference between that and rightwing nationalism so i don’t think it’s vey cutting

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Just call them nationalists

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I don’t know why I forgot the existence of “nationalist”. But I think “citizen” is also a little different. The former implies an ideology, the latter implies a willingness to be part of imperial machinations, even if unwittingly.

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I agree with this. Cause citizen is something military bros and wannabes say unironically. Patriot or nationalist gets to heart of it better I think

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When someone refers to me as “citizen” all I think is

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I prefer “settler” for Americans at least cause it really hits those “leftists”/“anarchists”/“communists” that refuse to admit we’re still in settler colonialism

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