malicious hexbears are taking advantage of people’s trauma to turn them against the west folks (and judging by the recent survey, turning them trans too? )
https://lemmy.world/comment/12777548 link cuz im not a lib
the comment in the screeshot is responding to @blakeus12@hexbear.net’s wholesome introduction post here: https://hexbear.net/post/3631051
I made a TLDR here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5484512
I started as alt-right
yeah goat, we could tell
@goat@lemmy.ml it really is suspicious that you are so dedicated. In my experience, libs don’t care that much about communists. Libs don’t spend more than a year trying to make a communist forum look bad, and they certainly don’t deliberately distort the truth to do so—like you implying we’re anti-vax, or claiming lemmygrad hates trans people as if nutomic speaks for them, when you’ve been here long enough to know better. Libs don’t knowingly lie like that, they don’t think they need to. Libs live in a media bubble, they’re confident they can express every aspect of their mainstream, socially acceptable, vetted perspective in public and it will surely withstand criticism from some communists on a fringe forum. In my experience, the ones who lie and distort are the alt-right. The dedication, the dishonesty, it really gives me a strange vibe, goat.
Also I get a casually transphobic vibe from goat, like when they said that people who get offended over being misgendered are “obsessing” and need to “go outside”.
Edit: further more you have them saying shit like this:
Not just denying the gender identity of a bunch of this site’s users but also rehashing queerphobic “groomer” accusations.
The sidebar pic showing Xi Jinping as a yellow bear is strange too. I know the meme started in China, but surely goat realizes that most people on lemmy have no idea where that meme came from? Lemmy users are going to log on and see a predominantly white forum portraying Xi Jinping as a yellow bear for some reason. Context matters, doesn’t it? In China, there’s no risk the image will seem racist, but can you imagine posting that image on sh.itjust.works? Fuck. Not something I would ever do. Wasn’t there even a thread pointing this out to goat a long time ago, and yet the image is still there?
The remaining users were the worst of the worst
This user’s post is so wrong.
- First accusation is that it’s more radical and mean than CTH was. I don’t agree, CTH was fucking nuts at times. They’re presenting it like it was a socdem space and this has gone way further left than it but you’re talking about the subreddit that was banned for saying slavers should be killed and that spez is a slaver lmao. The sub practically went out of its way to be edgy and get banned. Moderation here is way tamer and less crazy.
- Second accusation is that the site “dwindled” from any users to few. This ain’t true either, hexbear is more active now than it has been.
- There was never any divide over Russia-Ukraine. This user is literally making it up. There’s definitely never been cheering over killing of civilians, you lying neoliberal fuckhead. Treating war like a football game? Projection.
- “I went to therapy and it saved me” lmao libs literally always resort to “go to therapy” for fucking everything. Biggest giveaway this is a neoliberal larping.
- “Now I look back on my several years as a hexbear user” you’re absolutely full of shit mate.
This is a neoliberal that’s skimmed the place a few times. Nothing more.
I started as alt-right, realised I actually like queerness. Then I went communist, realised murder is childish and how much I was being played and then decided to do my own thing.
Literally nobody in the left WANTS murder. We’re just not naive enough to think that the transition of power will ever be allowed to be peaceful. We’d love that, frankly, but every time that’s been tried it has resulted in millions of communists being murdered without any means to defend themselves. The means to defend ourselves are necessary and we expect violence to be necessary because the ruling class will not allow a peaceful transition. That’s NOT being pleased with the idea of murder at all. It’s just understanding that peaceful revolution is not really allowed for what we want.
I dont think you’re wrong but the idea that they used to be on hexbear for fucking years and didnt know there was a public modlog is so funny i need it to be true lmao
Yeah kinda basic mistake right there. Especially with the frequent posts about modlog entries.
I wonder if any of this is chatgpt… Are we in chatgpt’s training data yet?
I asked the chatgpt 4o mini model via a proxy:
Q: What is Hexbear?
A: Hexbear is an online community and social media platform that focuses on leftist and socialist discussions, particularly among younger audiences. It serves as a space for users to share ideas, news, and resources related to leftist politics, activism, and culture. The platform is often compared to other social media sites but is specifically tailored to foster discussions around socialist and anti-capitalist ideologies. Hexbear aims to create a supportive environment for those interested in leftist thought and activism.
Q: What softwares powers Hexbear?
Q: Hexbear is powered by a combination of open-source software and custom development. The platform is built on top of the Discourse forum software, which is designed for creating discussion forums and community platforms. Discourse provides features like threaded discussions, user profiles, and moderation tools. Additionally, Hexbear may utilize various other tools and technologies for its specific needs, such as database management systems, web servers, and front-end frameworks, but the core of the platform is based on Discourse. The community often contributes to its development and customization to better suit their needs.
wouldn’t surprise me, although i have to imagine even with our posting prowess we might still make up too small a part of the data set to meaningfully influence it
self-aware?
Was it alt-right or communism for you?
I started as alt-right, realised I actually like queerness. Then I went communist, realised murder is childish and how much I was being played and then decided to do my own thing.
So they started with embracing hate, then embraced communist aesthetics (presumably to be edgy while not understanding the communist analysis), and then finally, they decided that the status quo where murder happens conveniently mostly out of sight of the imperial cores and everything stays the same is best, because all those people resisting the empire are upset for (some reason)?
…the OP called murder childish? i literally did not read any of the surrounding comments this person made in the thread that is basically as dumb as the entire paragraph of bullshit spewed out preceding it
There’s also the title of the thread calling the hexbear “racist”, which I can’t find even the distorted lib version of from reading the post.
my best guess from reading through blakeus12’s original thread is that he calls himself an amerikkkan and maybe goat, top mind of sh.itjust.works that they are, saw the kkk and thought it was racist somehow? i dont know only other thing i could think is that it’s racist against rural white people to say you’re from dumbfuck no where? normally id just say it’s because someone used the word cracker but it’s not even said by any of the top level comments in the screenshot so i’m grasping at straws here.
Theres the first red flag. This person is basically just an NPC with no real leanings that latches onto whatever appeals to them on an aesthetic levell off the internet.
basically just an NPC
Honestly I hate this framing, it’s used a lot by the fascists to dehumanize people for not thinking exactly like them.
The user is just a fucking lib, and always has been.
