cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396125

Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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Oh they’re really gonna love how Trump handles Arabs

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Strawmen belong in fields, not comment sections.

Also: does every ml user have an allergy to pragmatic problem solving?

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“pragmatic” problem solving is killing all undocumented migrants to solve the housing and work shortages in the US.

Pragmatic problem solving was the excuse for the necessity of the Holocaust. Pragmatic problem solving is making black people count as two thirds a white person to appease fascists.

Pragmatic problem solving is a liberal appointing Hitler chancellor so commies don’t get power and Nazis stop doing violence.

Pragmatic problem solving is behind the worst human atrocities. Let’s not pretend it’s ever been good.

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Yes, yes they do. Pretty sure it’s either a bot farm or dumb ass undergrads…

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This is an article about why Arab-Americans are abandoning the Democrats for endorsing and materially supporting genocide, and the response is “Trump would be bad too!” Yea, of course he would be, Harris is so bad that she isn’t a solution either.

Also: does every ml user have an allergy to pragmatic problem solving?

What do you mean by this?

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You think they’re voting for trump? If so, you’re even dumber than you think they are

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I mean, it’s not like there’s any other viable candidate. I don’t like the two party system but it’s what we have and by voting any other way than Harris, it gives advantage to Trump.

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Her shitty policies and attitude toward the genocide of people in the Levant is what’s giving trump an advantage!

Her shitty attitude towards people calling on her not to support the genocide is what’s giving trump an advantage.

She had it in the bag when she called him weird but you can always rely on a democrat to steal defeat from the jaws of victory!

And you know for sure that democrats are going to turn on minorities and leftists once she loses the election rather than face up to the fact that they did everything themselves to avoid winning it.

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It’s like the trolley problem, except instead of the other track having fewer people, it has more, and it just loops back around to run over the people on the first track anyway. We should have sent the trolley on a completely different route decades ago.

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Single issue voters, or is this even a single issue because Trump and Harris don’t really have much different on this particular topic? People really have me scratching my head sometimes.

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The single issue: genocide

Why are you sheepdogging for genociders? You have always had the option of saying nothing and educating yourself instead.

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I am not a single issue voter and I don’t think that way. There are many important issues on the line and I will vote for the candidate that addresses the most. I am not saying that genocide is unimportant, just that I can’t impact it with my selection.

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What is more important than supporting and normalizing genocide?

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It is not a complex issue. There is a genocide and there are increasing calls to support those genociders electorally. Instead of supporting genociders, you should oppose them.

Liberals call “issues” complex in order to speak euphemistically about the horrible things they support. They do not actually have an understanding of the alleged complexity, it is just a lazy thought-terminating cliché. When you do understand something, you can discuss it directly. At the moment, you are apparently more afraid of using the word genocide than actually being complicut in it yourself. Is this the “complexity” you are referring to? Your personal discomfort? I suspect so.

Unless you’d like to explain how it does…

Being consistently against genocide is the first step towards actually fighting against it. I have set the bar very low. Can you clear it?

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There is no difference because Harris knows her good little gooses steppers will vote for her no matter what she does or who she kills.

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If this is a joke, it’s a very bad one. If it isn’t, good luck on pulling your head out of your ass.

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single issue voters

the single issue is the eradication of their families and friends

yeah man I wonder why they don’t support that

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Do you consider war crimes, mass murderand sending in our troops to assist in a far right wing colonial war – all done with our tax dollars to be a “single issue” like… school vouchers or Amtrak funding? It seems a very dishonest or at best an inaccurate method to weigh issues against each other.

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Oh look, anti-Arab racism from liberals already

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I think calling Arab-Americans stupid for refusing to vote for genocide is racist. Harris is handing Trump a victory because she can’t cease US support for Israel.

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This group is the single greatest gift to the 2024 trump presidency and he doesn’t know it yet!

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Harris? I agree, she’s torpedoing a very easy campaign.

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sorry, Russian plants, people know Trump will not only give Israel MORE weapons and NOT call for cease fires but will probably also send US troops. nobody’s dumb enough to think they’re “the same”

https://www.kktv.com/video/2024/03/01/biden-calls-immediate-cease-fire-gaza/

and

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/03/07/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news

And now

President Biden told the Israeli leader that airstrikes that killed aid workers were “unacceptable” and appeared to condition future support on how Israel changes course. https://archive.ph/t5tIi

Meanwhile the alternative

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-israel-finish-problem-gaza-1234981038/

The whole “Kamala is bad because Israel” line is so absurd compared to Trump that it really must be Russian propaganda.

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There is a perspective that the genocide will be the same under both. Maybe a few months ago, but bidens since stopped asking for a cease fire, and has literally sent troops to israel to defend them already.

Its less about voting for trump and more about how increasingly unpalatable its become for some to endorse the current administration. For example in Michigan, a lot of people in the third party movement have family overseas, and its hard to argue to them that they should care more about the theoretical distopia being shouted at them versus the very real one they have been living for a while now.

Put yourself in someone else’s shoes for once.

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If I didn’t care I wouldn’t comment. The perspective is materially absurd. Just because you can only change degrees doesn’t mean you can morally abdicate your responsibility to do so.

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