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I don’t like this no true scotsman crap with Christianity. If you think Israelis went from oppressed to oppressor in record time, Ima introduce you to this Constantine dude who flipped the script in an afternoon. Because Jesus did what? Helped him in battle.

From that day forward, militant, violent, and expansionist Christianity was the norm. All that crap about the poor is just the “slave morality” that’s naturally shed once on has power. They didn’t betray Jesus, they upgraded him to a god of war.

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I mean…I feel like “upgrading” Jesus to a god of war IS betraying him. Certainly betrays everything he actually stood for. (Or at least that the character of Jesus in the Bible stood for. Not sure there’s any real evidence Jesus ever actually existed) Edit: good = god

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Some dude named Yeshua Ben Yosef was drinking wine and saying crazy apocalyptic shit in the first century and got a whole religion. I do the same and I get asked to leave a taco establishment at 3am.

The world isn’t fair.

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To be specific about it, the same level of evidence used to say Socrates existed or Spartacus existed also says Jesus existed. You could argue the bar should be higher, but if you did that it’d have to be equal for everyone else. It doesn’t take raising the bar much before history amounts to just a couple of kings.

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Interesting… Thank you

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And then Jesus said: “It’s her fault that she got raped and pregnant. Kick her out of our community, that whore.”

He probably really said that at some point in his life.

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I mean, he accepted Mary Magdalene who was a literal prostitute.

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Everybody needs a squeeze…

Ghandi had teenagers around him for totally not sex.

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That’s just him acknowledging sex work is work

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Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute. That’s a common misconception.

The portrayal of Mary Magdalene as a prostitute began in 591, when Pope Gregory I identified Mary Magdalene, who was introduced in Luke 8:2, with Mary of Bethany (Luke 10:39) and the unnamed “sinful woman” who anointed Jesus’s feet in Luke 7:36–50.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene

But Jesus was most certainly very accepting of people from all walks of life. That was like his whole purpose. So the other comment about him rejecting people from the community is dead wrong. If anything, people reproached him because he was too accepting of the “sinners”.

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Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute.

Part of the problem with all of these stories is that they’re largely intended as parables and are cobbled together from a litany of testimonials of which only four remain canonical.

Mary as a holy woman and as a sex symbol aren’t in contradiction. Quite a few of the early underground Christian organizations had their own bacchanals and orgiastic rituals, right in line with the traditions of their Roman-Era Middle Eastern peers. Age the stories 580 years and put them within the context of a far more conservative and doctrinaire church, obsessed with lineages and bloodlines rather than parties and popular evangelism, and Mary transforms from a kind-of Aphrodite-esque esoteric priestess into a harlot running a brothel.

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And then Jesus said “yeah, but what was she wearing?”

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He probably really said that

“Take her from this place, and bring her back to my place, where my own hands will see she receives that which she is due.”

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I think you’re quoting somebody else.

But for a real quote,

Let him who is without sin throw the first stone.

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I think you’re quoting somebody else.

An oblique reference to a Monty Python bit about a judge ordering a bailiff to escort an accused prostitute back to his house. I’d dig up the clip but can’t seem to find one on YouTube.

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That’s some old testament shit though, technically doesn’t apply to christians.

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Supply side Jesus!

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Then Jesus said to the children “Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps”.

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