Frogan, Vio, Denims, and Capri are all friends of Hasanabi. I think they’re all Leftist. Frogan is a muslim woman and said she hopes that American soldiers get PTSD for helping Israel (based). Vio is comedy twitch stream, but I think with Leftist sympathy. Vio also lives with / is dating Central_Committee (Mike_From_PA on twitter), which is the second largest self-proclaimed socialist news channel on twitch. Denims is a woman on twitch who talks about some Leftism stuff. Capri aka CapriSunnPapi is Palestinian/Lebanese man. Frogan and Capri both have family who live in Lebanon. I think these are actually cool people, not vaushite people.
here’s a video where Frogan and Capri talk about their family in Lebanon. They talk about their families being bombed by Israel.
https://youtu.be/zrnc6j6zNy4?t=1501
The bans were probably lead by Ethan Klein and Destiny’s community.
Ethan and Destiny are taking credit for the bans and gloating on their shows, in reality the ADL claimed they spoke directly with Twitch staff which was followed by the bans
This shit is so obviously racist, straight up targeted harassment of Arab and pro-Palestine streamers by zionists and their right-wing allies
ADL probably wouldnt have noticed until D and subsequently h3 made it a thing. But thats definitely the pressure twitch had to cave to.
And to be more specific, it could be based on an insinuation that the hummus brand name was code for “Israeli-borne Jew” that I saw ethan saying it’s a thing based on comments on the D psychos.
Which is of course 100% not real but who gives a shit right.
Ethan can go fuck himself. Typical Zionist Jewish supremacists piece of shit. The only issue ever is anti semitism for him. He doesn’t give a shit about anything else. He’s so obsessed he has to create a problem when ther isnt one. When you’re on the same side as destiny you’ve completely lost the plot. Fucking assholes like these just making everything worse makes me such a pro doomer and the way things are going with the environment I guess I have something to be happy about.
i mean yes in the end it’s all streamer drama (to all those that will be like “who are these people ?” to sound cool)
but at the core but it does demonstrate the outsized influence that can be deployed against even the mildly leftist pipeline types. there is precious little in this space for younger people that isn’t chud, chud-adjacent, straight fascist, or fascist adjacent zionazi.
it does show how quickly and throughly the entire tiny ecosystem of leftist creators could be absolutely shut down if there was a cross platform coordinated ban. imagine just every leftist instantly having all their socials closed, banned from every platform, utterly silenced and how little anyone would be able to do about it.
because it’s coming
I would add that despite these people being streamers, their communities also do some activism in real life, like participating in the antiwar student encampment protests and other protests in support of Palestinians.
Hopefully some of these big communities will see the writing on the wall and move to places like lemmy, matrix, etc. If all the big leftist streamers got together they could probably afford to make their own site they control, and multistream to it, and twitch or something that way when a ban comes they have it to fall back on.
goddamn ADL is tweeting about Frogan by name now, as if she doesn’t get enough constant threats of death and violence and SA
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
i enjoyed the double entendre of “likes Sabra”, as both criticizing people who like the shitty hummus and also the massacre it’s named after.
Well you see Sabra could also mean “israeli-born person” so it’s actually super antisemitic to talk about the shitty grainy hummus.
The term alludes to a tenacious, thorny desert plant, known in English as prickly pear, with a thick skin that conceals a sweet, softer interior. The cactus is compared to Israeli Jews, who are supposedly tough on the outside, but delicate and sweet on the inside.
which ya know, additionally silly when you consider the plant is from the Americas, and was widely used in colonial states as a living fence
“Sweet and delicate inside” is a hell of a way to describe “full of rancid shit and bloody entrails” tbh, they’re so full of themselves lol…
What part is the “sweetness” again? It’s certainly not given to the indigenous Arabs- so who is it for? Non-Arabs, like the Asian laborers they prevent from fraternizing with locals or having sex whatsoever in the country (racist racial purity bullshit from the sounds of it)? To their fellow Jews, like the Ethiopian Jews they have forcefully sterilized, the Yemeni and other MENA Jews they discriminate against, or all those Jewish people who reject their settler-colonialism- or even those fellow Zionists who simply have concerns or get in the way (that Hannibal protocol lol)?
What sweetness exactly are we talking about lol… they may as well have called the Nazis sweet, their attitude in some ways even is more repulsive than that.
The metaphor would make more sense if you opened up a prickly pear and inside was just more spines pointing inward
banned for a sanctioned event at Twitch’s own convention is a fucking insane thing to do to them. these myopic zionist pieces of shit aren’t content with violently starving Palestinians and Lebanese people in those countries, so apparently they have to try to starve the vocal ones that live in amerikkka too. interesting that they didn’t ban the actual Jewish person that was part of the same event, whose idea it was, seemingly. they also put one of the Arab people that got banned (denims) at the bottom of the “loves sabra” tier, how does that stack with “Sabra = Jew” calculus that the ADL is pushing?
There’s 100% a life-destroying defamation suit to make against Ethan and Stephen “grandpa owned slaves” Bonnercelli opening here. Ethan especially, stupidly, has been lying openly repeatedly. Obviously Amazon and the Twitch CEO specifically can now be roped into a civil suit and also maybe defamation if their internal reasoning for this is literally “because Arabs.”
The first two could be sued by “normal” people and extract ass-destroying settlements. Unfortunately due to Hellscape and all that, Amazon could only be taken on with a chance at winning by ACLU or some other free speech organization with millions to throw at causes. The chances of actually successfully extracting a win from the company is probably not high enough (even though they did clearly cause undue harm and their TOS wasn’t even breached- not that TOS even matters) for them to engage. Nor are the consequences high enough. As in, they aren’t going to prison (yet… let the Nazis keep chipping away).
But I do hope Ethan is sued into oblivion. I haven’t seen anything from Nazielli because I don’t watch his dumb shit. If he’s said anything even 1% as defamatory as Ethan in the last month or so, rope his ass in too along with any other of the pro-genocide dumbasses. The case would be pretty straight forward. Nothing to do with actual pro-Palestinian sentiments just a pure factual look at “Was this anti-semitic… no, clearly not, Ethan, bend over, reach into deep asshole, pull out cash. Steve, you’re next.”
He loooovveeeessss to talk about all his big Ws in court. I think his legal battles have stoked his ego so much, and a FAT L like that makes me salivate. (Ive just finally canceled my membership, watches regularly up until he started bringing the antisemitism shit up every fucking day)
He already caught a fat L in court over slandering Ryan Kavanaugh. It’s part of what broke his brain.
Wait- I haven’t watched any H3 for years now. I did watch the leftovers show but even dropped that too once Ethan decided he was would come in weekly and read Destiny’s “debate” talking points at Hasan and then refuse to actually respond with a counter point… and also refuse to concede that he’s a dumbass.
But did he lose that suit? Never have I felt simultaneously happy and yet disappointed at the same time. Because that guy kinda legitimately sucks… but so does Ethan. Hmm.
Honest question: how much would such a lawsuit rely on the definition of antisemitism, and how much of an issue is it that the US congress has been making a specific push to include anti-zionism in the definition of antisemitism?
I honestly kinda doubt our justice system would give them a fair definition right now…
I dunno. Not a lawyer, etc.
I would say it’s probably relevant that she and Twitch are in California which to my knowledge has not adopted that insane, ironically antisemitic “antisemitism definition.”
Also that law was for specific purposes relating to funding by the US gov to people and colleges specifically. Ie if they are ruled antisemitic (a college, etc.) they are disqualified from federal funds. I understand you were asking, not suggesting or whatever, so, I’ll just leave it at that. It would depend upon the judge and any appeals that came (writing this from the POV of Frogan, main target here)… assuming she even won. I would say in my understanding of the law, it would be brought up by the defendant, 100%, but if the judge is a state judge and actually being “fair” and following the correct procedures… then they’d be seeking out like “is she specifically saying antisemitic things? Is she holding up known symbols? Like what is the basis for calling this specific incident antisemitic?” On the other hand, she would be arguing she did nothing to lead to that assessment by the defendant. That they knowingly, falsely spread this narrative despite immediately being pushed back on by the involved parties with explanations, that they did not retract the statement and they did all of this with clear, stated, malicious intent to have her livelihood cutoff. (Maybe I should’ve been a lawyer… nah, kinda hate lawyers)
But, I concede, this all does hinge on people being fair. I think this case is so far beyond the pale, so egregious, that even a hardcore Zionist judge would find that it was defamation if only to preserve their own reputation… such that it matters. But, again, who knows. People have gotten away with far worse and people have been successfully “punished” for far less.
me: I am against the death penalty
i am reminded of destiny’s existance
Me: well… hmmm
