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The Dems have moved so far to the right that what used to be the far-right (Bush/Cheney) now supports them

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This is all you need to know about the Democratic Party. How many years before they make Trump look sane?

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The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.

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current day libs will have rehabilitated trump sometime in the next 20 years. I am willing to bet every dollar I own on that. it will happen, just like bush and cheney have been rehabilitated.

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The dems have already rehabilitated GWB, McCain, and Cheney. It’s a trueism that the democrats of today are the republicans of 20 years ago.

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I do think Bush/Cheney etc are also moving away from DJT.

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10 years ago I used to bring up how Biden was one of the biggest proponents of the murderous drug war and the police militarization that came with it, and how he should never be president because of all the blood on his hands. I used to get called extreme for it

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Just a few months ago it was impossible to criticize this old segregationist rapist. The two US political parties are worse than cults.

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As are the Republicans. In a country with only two ruling parties, that means the country is. It’s quite simple.

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The distinction being drawn is that popular sentiments aren’t going rightwards like the parties are.

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If that was the case wouldn’t dems win every election? How can the people stay center or move left and it not cause a landslide for the more left leaning party?

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Marketing

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Well, I would argue that that is like 95% where their votes are coming from, basically “This is still the ‘left’ option, I guess,” rather than believing in any sort of positive vision on the part of the Democratic Party (it doesn’t have one).

However, politics isn’t just a 1-dimensional spectrum where things neatly slot into whatever is closest. The fact that they are lurching rightward, the apparent contempt they have for the left, the lack of any meaningful similarity between what a left-wing person wants and what the Democrats will even acknowledge is real (like action on the genocide in Palestine), means that what you are taking as similarity is in many cases difference. Just saying “Fuck you, vote for me because the other guy is worse” is really not a good strategy for getting votes unless you are holding getting votes as secondary to pandering to donors.

Like, do you think a new Republican candidate could just be blatantly pro-choice and not lose one or two dedicated blocs of the Republican voting base, just because “he’s still the farthest right”? Of course not, democracy doesn’t work that way. If you don’t support people on the issues they care about most, a good number of them will tell you to go to hell while the others roll over as always.

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Have been my entire life.

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It may well turn out that humanity chases itself towards more and more hate and scapegoating as they make the world they live in less liveable.

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