123 points

imagine if this was the only reason he loses the election. that pr was the decider.

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That would be awesome. We should give them statehood in return.

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Yeah, but then they’d have to start paying federal income taxes. That’s a big part of why their statehood referendums are always so close, it’s a legit pros and cons list.

Last time “yes” did win by just a few percentage points though.

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The citizens do seem to be split between the choices, and in the end it is and should be up to them. I find it not surprising that the biggest reason for opposition outside PR is because it would change the balance of senators. Which is rich, since Congress as a whole needs a revamp in representation count in the House anyway, but we’ve held to an outdated number because it’s “hard” to change.

I read there’s another possible option - go back under Spanish governance. I wonder how much support that even gets, or if Spain would even want it.

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So if I moved to Puerto Rico I wouldn’t have to pay income tax?

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Well, Kentucky takes all of our tax money including most republican states

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It would be a fitting bout of karma after he didn’t give two shits about the response to Hurricane Maria.

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Imagine being the most hated comic ever because you’re racist but also all the racists hate you.

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4 points

Someone with talent would probably be able to pivot that into some unironic success. Shame about this guy lmao

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I think it’s weird that most of his other base are basically cucks in this regard. “I don’t care about you, I need your votes” and they eat it right up, can’t get enought of the alienation. But he’s picked up some bad habits due to it

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But he’s picked up some bad habits due to it

I think you may have too

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I forgot I can’t use words they use in proper context. They’re cucks. They’re weak, sycophantic losers that fetishize their own disparagement. Boo hoo. Go read a book, preferably a thesaurus

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This would be incredible lol

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I’m fine with that.

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In response to questions on the comments, and whether Trump was planning to publicly denounce them, Trump campaign press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement, “Due to President Trump’s plans to cut taxes, end inflation, and stop the surge of illegal immigrants at the southern border, he has more support from the Hispanic American community than any Republican in recent history.”

News outlets need to stop giving non-responses space in their stories. The PR people don’t answer questions because they can just say whatever pro-candidate message they want and the journalists will print it. Say they gave a response that didn’t address the subject and move on, don’t promote their alternate messaging.

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They’ll sanewash but not bullshitwash.

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I want media to say something like:

A spokesperson for the trump campaign, when asked, spoke on another issue. We’re still receiving clarification at press time.

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85 points

Someone should’ve reminded him Puerto Rico is an American territory, and its residents are full fledged American citizens. While the island itself gets no electoral college votes, any of its citizens living in one of the 50 states get the same rights and privileges as the rest of us.

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Not only do they get no electoral college votes, they don’t get to vote for president at all, though they can vote in the primaries.

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Right. Unless they’ve moved away from Puerto Rico and live somewhere in the mainland now, which is a whole shitload of them.

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The mere concept of denying certain citizens a right to vote, or a reduced/amplified vote, based on their where they live is entirely anti-democratic.

It’s amazing how much Americans have just accepted blindly as the pinnacle of freedom.

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A lot of someones did remind him of that after Hurricane Maria, when he loudly bragged about getting on the phone with “the president of Puerto Rico” and was subsequently reminded that that was him.

Honestly, that’s probably 90% of the reason he even went to Puerto Rico (and threw paper towel rolls at them).

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Not a single Trump voter changed their minds. The Trump Puerto Ricans agree with this. They just think it’s the ‘others’ fault.

This may even get them TO vote since someone sees the ‘problems’ they live with. This is how EVERY group that votes Trump against their own interest feel.

They 100% don’t know they are included with the ‘problem’

VOTE

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70 points

Vance said that he had not heard the joke and that “maybe it’s a stupid racist joke” or “maybe it’s not”

Schrödinger’s racism, apparently

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Vance said that he had not heard the joke …

https://youtu.be/r3hTwsvJV_A

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Just give me some racism, whatever’s good.

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Whatever the maga hive mind decides over the next couple days.

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People who are the butt of such jokes have an innate tendency to agree and pretend it’s not about them because they’re one of the good ones. It’s sad but that’s basically the same thing happening with the white people the Nazis deemed weren’t pure enough, or the whites the early US settlers used to hate on. In another time, JD Vance would have been too Irish to be Trumps VP. That’s what this whole ideology is based on, there’s no fixed in group, the out group target is always changing.

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People who are the butt of such jokes have an innate tendency to agree and pretend it’s not about them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

A reason why some German Jews supported Hitler was that they thought that his anti-Semitism was only for “stirring up the masses”.[1] Also, they adhered to a kind of respectability politics that led many non-Jews in the German Reich to congratulate the VnJ with the phrase, “If only all Jews were like you.”[2]

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I have a few lesbian coworkers who are absolutely rabid trumpers. It’s just some of the craziest shit I’ve encountered in person.

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How to get imagined social status:

  1. Look up to an authoritarian shitheel
  2. Imagine your love for them would be reciprocated in their love for you
  3. Act like “I’m one of the good ones” and oppress people who are like you but don’t perfectly match up to the idealised figure of the authoritarian leader

Oppressing others is a win/win for people who enjoy pretending to important AND bullying others, and I can’t see it ever completely going out of style.

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2 points

I take it they’re TERFs?

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I never thought the leopards would eat my face, says person voting for leopards eating faces party.

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It’s even worse: it’s “I never thought the leopards who said they would eat all faces and actually ate several on live TV would ever actually eat any faces,” says person voting for leopards eating faces party because they promised to eat faces.

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“I’m one of the good ones!”

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