I’ve seen too much of this. No, the nazis and the Soviets were not equivalent.
Do. Better.
Criticising the USSR is ok, but trying to equivicate them to the nazis, explicitly or implicitly, is not. For example, saying “The Nazis and soviets were both abhorrent, just for different reasons”, is entering Holocaust trivialisation territory, because it reads as implying they were comparable.
- What exactly did the Soviets do that was “abhorrent”?
- The USSR was not an empire; to the best of my knowledge, the only territories it captured were those occupied by Nazis.
Which ones? The Baltic states? Finland? The ungoverned part of Poland that would’ve been taken by Nazis otherwise?
lmao are you referencing the Russian Civil War, are you talking about the Central Asian Soviets?
Wow you really need to do some basic research, the strongest pushers for unionization of the soviets equals “occupied” and “invaded” in your head? Do you even know what the White Army was?
Even that old neocon slug Christopher Hitchens celebrated the victory of the Red Army over those murderous fascist cannibals
There’s a reason even anti-communtist academics don’t like to harp on the civil war period too much, hard to make false equivalences bewteen popular liberatory peasant armies and open and proud foreign backed genociders
I think it got removed because of the context it was posted in. Like asking this question when the topic is the double genocide theory just reads like equivocating between the Nazis and the USSR. Good faith criticism of the USSR is allowed here. But in the context of this thread? Bad look.
its a bad idea to say it in the same breath, because imo comparing the holocaust to something not the holocaust is a form of trivialization, the holocaust was really really bad. even other purely evil genocides were not as mechanized and widespread as the holocaust.
also, you know, everything in our era is not going to be ideal. states exist for a reason, and states can be problematic. but as socialists we have to go for whatever is capable of moving society forward, and states can do that under strict guidance.
As if libs have ever cared about what scholars think. They’ll be drowning in a boiling ocean screaming about how we can still stop this with a few more carbon offsets
Libs absorb nazi propaganda like a sponge.
almost like they have absorbed the culture of the country they live in. a certain type of country.
But though the camps that made up Auschwitz seemed silent and abandoned at first, soldiers soon realized they were filled with people—thousands of them, left to die by SS guards who evacuated the camps after trying to cover up their crimes. As they saw the soldiers, the emaciated prisoners hugged, kissed and cried.
“They rushed toward us shouting, fell on their knees, kissed the flaps of our overcoats, and threw their arms around our legs,” remembered Georgii Elisavetskii, one of the first Red Army soldiers to step into Auschwitz. After five years of hell, Auschwitz was liberated at last.
