So the supreme court already ruled the president cannot be held accountable for anyone they kill.

The vice president becomes the president instantly if the president dies.

What is preventing any vice president from waiting until day 1 of their parties presidency, and then murdering the president? And then instantly pardoning themself?

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The action would have been done as vice-president, not president. Vice-presidents are held accountable. This is why Trump got in trouble for defamation of E. Jean Carroll.

He defamed her as president and called it an official act. The case was put on indefinite hold. Then he said the same things while he wasn’t president. A new case was brought against him and he was found liable. Then, Carroll’s lawyer asked the original case to be resumed arguing that Trump’s statements couldn’t be an official act of the president since he performed the same action while he wasn’t president. The courts agreed and resumed the case and he was found liable again.

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Also, impeachment. One would like to think that even today, a president-through-killing-the-president-while-being-vice-president would be impeached and removed by congress, but who knows.

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Yes, but Republicans do what they want with no consequences, so check and mate.

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In a trump/vance administration… Not a damn thing

Probably a good bet it will happen

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You grossly oversimplified what the Supreme Court basically “said,” and then posited a ridiculous assertion on top of it.

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That’s not what the Supreme Court said, though. Only official acts have absolute immunity. Murder is not usually an official act.

And as always, if you’re talking about a coup d’etat, the question is if the military or spy agencies will kill you before, during, or after it. When the rule of law is out the window, you must expect physical violence.

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Is trying to overthrow an election an official act?

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it’s much harder to prove because the official acts part also includes all the evidence and testimony needed to prosecute.

So if you can’t use evidence from official communication to prove that the treason happened. That makes the prosecution of presidents very difficult. It’s going to be extremely difficult for a prosecution to tell a coherent story to a jury without including any “official” acts as part of the crime.

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An official act is defined as a purposefully undefinable and thus uncheckable label the temporarily-illegitimate supreme court can apply to any action without reason or precedent so that donald trump can do whatever he wants.

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