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I think he’s a symptom of a much larger disease. The people behind him, the evangelicals, non college educated whites, the climate change deniers, the industrialists who fight every regulation, the behind closed doors racists. These are the democracy extinction harbingers.

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I’ve been saying for a while, George W. Bush is the one who took the door off its hinges and sold it, Trump is just the inevitable crackhead who walked in and started living in the kitchen.

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Or it could be regular family people that are sick of seeing their taxes going to countries not even in NATO. Or the fact that the inflation during this administration has American choosing food or medicine. Or the fact that during this administration housing has become only a dream. Or the facts that the current administration opened the boarder to bring cheap labor to replace us. Yeah great current administration!

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Or it could be regular family people that are sick of seeing their taxes going to countries not even in NATO.

I thought republicans didn’t even like NATO, what’s the butthurt about this?

Or the fact that the inflation during this administration has American choosing food or medicine.

We had to choose that long before this administration. The primary source of inflation is corporate greed and the top 0.1% demanding more from the rest of us, while paying less themselves, a position they only get away with because of conservatives.

Or the fact that during this administration housing has become only a dream.

Because there are no penalties or dis-incentives for corporations not to buy up all the land and houses. Every time we try to impose such rules, it gets shot down by republicans.

Or the facts that the current administration opened the boarder to bring cheap labor to replace us.

Border. Also, the implied violence and expulsion against undocumented workers is what enables employers to pay them such a cheap wage and enforce abysmal working conditions on them. The correct solution is to provide an easy path for work visas, and heavily penalize companies for hiring undocumented workers. You’ll never guess who is against doing that though…

Your comment is peak “stick in bicycle” meme.

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Im not a republican!

Food prices inflated during the current administration, food was super affordable. What did Biden do to try and control inflation? Nothing could care less.

Again housing was affordable during the trump administration its not affordable anymore and if the dems win housing will just continue to be un affordable. Its been 4 years and they have done nothing!

They opened the boarder to replace you open your eyes man. No body does anything out of the kindness of their hearts.

You voting for this current mess is the bicycle meme lol

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sick of seeing their taxes going to countries not even in NATO.

This misconception needs to be corrected.

The tax dollars go to America’s milliary industrial complex. It’s their surplus (which is already budgeted and paid for by the American government) that is sent overseas. No tax dollars leave the USA.

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“Israel has also historically been permitted to use a portion of its FMF aid to buy equipment from Israeli defense firms—a benefit not granted to other recipients of U.S. military aid”

https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

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Forgot money grows on trees! Its still spending our tax dollars thats what I said. I got a crazy idea how about putting that into education or infrastructure. The american people are getting taken advantage any way you try and paint it. Israel has free healthcare and education and they are not part of NATO. They can fund their own genocide!

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Medicine? You mean like those handled by Obamacare which Trump wants to get rid of? From my understanding that was a huge change (here in Australia we have Medicare which is life changing and similar)

Also, if you’re getting replaced by people from another country (who have a huge disadvantage), I’d argue maybe you need to work on improving yourself.

That being said, she’s also increasing the minimum wage and taxing the rich more (whilst reducing tax for middle class and poor). So even minimum wage people are hugely better off.

Trumps bs has caused issues internationally, even here in Australia. I don’t think you realise how much he is fucking things up for normal people worldwide

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Worry about Australia don’t worry about a country you cant vote on or live in.

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Trump was already president and it was the best 4 years for Americans. Everything started to suck when Biden became president and Trump warned us that this would happen. Prices for everything inflated homes are only for huge corps to purchase yeah great great administration. They were better under trump and thats a fact. I’m not looking to make history with a women president I’m looking to make money for my future self and family.

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4 points

Shhhh. Some folks are reading the article.

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1 point

You can do all that stuff and still not support a racist asshole

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40 points

Chomsky was right when he properly pointed out that Republicans are the biggest threat to the world.

Donnie is merely a symptom. No Republicans ever should be allowed to hold any office.

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I would argue that the Republicans are a symptom as well, the whole USA democratic structure will only enable a 2-party system. The whole systemic structure is rotten.

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A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy worldwide, not just in United States. Considering that Trump and his supporters promise an isolationist policy, all sorts of predatory authoritarian and totalitarian regimes will suddenly feel like they can do anything - and this will start happening all over the world.

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Nope.

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Yup.

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Didn’t matter last time, won’t matter this time.

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Just curious as a non US citizen: why do you believe Trump is better than Kamala? Just objectively curious.

I don’t think they believe that at all. My guess is that they feel the opposite way.

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Well my reply was wasn’t meant to appear under this comment, that’s why I deleted it.

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It’s not so alarming what will happen if Trump gets elected

What’s more alarming for me is how dumb America could be that they are even considering electing someone like him … or to even have a choice between an average politician or a wannabe fascist and everyone is having a hard time deciding on what the sane option is.

This is a general intelligence test for America … and so far they are failing.

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To be fair, a lot of people believe that choosing neither somehow would absolve them of any guilt should fascism win.

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This is what I mean … the choice is either an average politician or an old wing nut orange man … but the choices are so difficult for Americans to decide that many choose neither and never think that they are instead paving the way for the wannabe fascist.

I can’t believe that the fate of the world hinges on the deranged decisions of a completely confused people. As much as I don’t want to admit that America has so much influence, they do have literal control over much of the world and they do have the largest most powerful military at the moment. So whoever gets to be leader will set the stage for the stability or instability of the world in the next few years. And it’s all riding on ill informed choices of a very ill informed population.

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It’s absurd how much power the executive has. The president shouldn’t matter that much. They are responsible for implementing laws that are written and passed by congress. That’s pretty much it. Maybe appoint a SCOTUS judge or two. And a bunch of lower court judges. Pending senate approval, of course.

Instead they are now nearly unilaterally in charge of the strongest military and largest economy the world has ever seen. Or at least they will, if Project 2025 or Agenda 47 is to be followed.

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don’t forget the christian second coming accelerationist folk who just want to see it all burn because they’re embarrassed they’ve fucked up too many predictions.

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They wish to literally embody the “all it takes for evil to prosper…” axiom

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Directly supporting and advocating for fascists and genocide supporters is much worst than not choosing to participate in a staged election that for a century has granted power to the same two parties

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Fucking moronic. See if you feel that way when your friends and loved ones are against the wall.

You have a chance to do something (however small) to prevent that.

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Case in point.

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The test was failed many many years ago.

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This is a general intelligence test for America … and so far they are failing.

It’s not.

Most voters aren’t “stupid,” they just live in completely different information universes.

This has always been the case in America, but I feel like it’s never been so severe, with people basically having their minds sucked into phones by design.

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My parents have been brainwashed into not believing any news that shows Trump in a bad light. When I show them video of one of his rants, or his dancing, or him giving a microphone a happy ending, they think I’m gullible and am falling for doctored video.

When people have been trained not to trust legitimate news sources, it’s really, really hard to convince them to come back to reality because, in their eyes, we’re the brainwashed ones.

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Yep.

I feel like information hygiene should be a mandatory part of school curriculum now. Like not just a small part, but hammered in.

It’s too late for our parents I guess, unless either party feels like regulating big tech…

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Though as an addendum, my mom grew up Republican, but doesn’t know how to use Facebook or anything, and she hates Donald Trump with a burning passion. Its kind of hilarious. She would literally, actually vote for Hitler over him, as his personality is so fundamentally incompatible with her, lol.

I mention that, as it feels like a test case for someone that hasn’t been conditioned to view him as a superhero or whatever.

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Disagree. Americans are too comfortable to do much of anything for themselves. The rise of centrism is basically being OK with whatever, and calling that clever.

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One party in particular has gone to great lengths to wreck the education system, looks like we are starting to see the results of those efforts.

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The culture of America is rooted in bigoted populism. You know what the big political issue of the 1850s was? 1870’s? 1920’s? 1960’s?

It’s the aftermath of the 60s that kept the creeps quiet for awhile, but we’re regressing to the mean now. This is the real America for better or worse. Always has been.

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Cause vs tipping point.

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have a choice between an average politician or a wannabe fascist and everyone is having a hard time deciding on what the sane option is.

The “average politician” is backing a genocide and israel fascist government, among other evil regimes around the world like saudi arabia or emirates.

If you consider either a fascist or a genocide supporter a sane option you are doing something much worst than failing an intelligence test, you are evil and in bad faith.

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You can just say you want trump to win. No one believes this ridiculous line of shit you use to try and hide it

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You can just say you want trump to win.

That’s probably what you want. I do not wish any criminal with blood on his hands to win anything

No one believes this ridiculous line of shit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

The government is not your friend. Look around yourself, a bunch of people and corporations own everything while the average person keeps getting poorer and exploited.

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it’s an extinction level event for a lot of things. we’re already out of time on so many important issues. every living creature on this earth should consider him a threat. we are in self defense mode, or at least we should be. sadly, most of you don’t seem to understand how dire the situation really is.

but whatever. stick your head back in the sand i guess.

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What exactly are you going to do about it? Seriously list out the specific measures you’re taking.

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Well start by voting. Vote local, vote often and make your voice heard. Then maybe try to reduce your carbon footprint. You really need a cultural shift for this to be effective. Yes yes I know businesses are the major polluters so I revert back to sentence one, vote, and continue to try to shift the culture to a more renewable one

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Ok, I vote in every single election, including every primary. I drive seldom, use public transportation often, eat meat only twice a week, and encourage other people to adopt socially and environmentally forward beliefs.

Do you really think this is enough? I don’t, but there is only so much one person can do.

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Are you ready to take the fight to the streets? Because that’s likely what it’ll come down to. Voting won’t save you. The constitution is only a flimsy piece of paper. Start organizing now.

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