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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Heavier vehicles also wear out roads faster, though the difference between a small sedan and a large electric SUV amounts to very little when compared to the effect of a garbage truck rolling by each morning.

Just this week, Automotive News reported that the Mitsubishi Mirage is on the way out, joining the choir invisible alongside cars like the Chevrolet Sonic, Honda Fit, and Toyota Yaris, all of which were once sold in the US.

The Bolt’s biggest problem, from a bean counter’s point of view at least, was a battery that cost a lot more per kWh than one made with General Motors’ new Ultium cells.

News of the Bolt’s cancellation was met with much dismay, and GM recently decided to bring the nameplate back at some unspecified time on a new Ultium-based platform.

But GM CEO Mary Barra has also warned that even with the lower cost of Ultium cells, the company won’t make any profit on sub-$40,000 EVs until late in the decade.

In addition to the ever-escalating safety arms race that entices American car buyers, a misplaced obsession with having as much range as possible also factors in here.


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77 points

americans will embrace small cars like they embrace gun control

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We embraced the shit out of them during the oil crisis in the '70’s. Then when gasoline got cheap again we snapped right back.

“But my SUV makes me feel so ‘safe’ and gives me a commanding view of the road!!!”

I am of the opinion that everyone ought to just get a motorcycle.

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I am of the opinion that everyone ought to just get a motorcycle.

But only if it’s a dual sport, right? ;)

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Well I mean preferably.

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I’d love to have a motorcycle that would replace my current vehicle, but it would need to be capable of keeping me warm while handling well in heavy snow. Afaik, there aren’t any enclosed bikes out there

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16 points

Have you ever seen Americans drive? Or the ones that ride motorcycles?

Give everyone a motorcycle and half the country would be dead in a week

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Well, that’ll keep 'em off my damn roads, won’t it?

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Honestly, fuck motorcycle drivers. I know there’s plenty of them out there who operate your machines properly, but there SO MANY absolute asshats on motorcycles, always making the highway way more dangerous for everyone around them.

If I could remove one vehicle from the earth it would be motorcycles. Idgaf how fun they are for you, people can’t be trusted with them in general.

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1 point

They’d all get those goddamn ear splitting harleys too. Like there isn’t enough noise already.

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8 points

I think there should be a separate license to drive SUVs and Trucks over a certain size. And that maintaining that license should be a bit of a hassle - like a required in-person written and practical test every 2 years. If people want that commanding view of the road and “safe” feeling that comes from endangering everyone else on the road, then they should have to put in some extra effort - not enough extra effort that it’s unattainable for those who actually have a need for a vehicle of that size, but enough effort that it would discourage the widespread use we have currently.

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Also, during your SUV probationary period you have to drive a Suzuki Samurai for two years or so.

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When you need a fucking step ladder to get into your jacked up pickup just so you can commute or get groceries you might have lost your mind.

I am of the opinion that everyone ought to just get a motorcycle.

I’d rather not die tyvm.

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0 points

With their face?!?

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1 point

They did for a while in the 70s-80s until giant SUVs got everyone hot and bothered

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7 points

The US EPA currently penalizes smaller cars thanks to a poorly thought out rule for fuel economy that scales by wheelbase size, making larger cars easier to meet requirements for. The EPA has made many embarrassingly backwards decisions, but this might be the worst.

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I was taxed an extra $150 to register a 2002 Honda Insight last year. It was for a “Hybrid Tax” because hybrid owners buy less gas and therefore are paying less tax on gasoline. Like, that’s the whole point of driving a small car!

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-14 points

No

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Why not?

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5 points

The big truck is important to compensate for the small penis.

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A small car means several trips to do normal things instead of just one. How is that beneficial exactly?

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42 points

What “normal things” are you doing that need a huge car?

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27 points

He needs to know he can move an entire house worth of belongings once a decade without having to rent a U-Haul like a pussy.

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1 point

Daily too. They’re either a contractor or lying

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20 points

Either your definition of small car is extra tiny or your definition of normal things is exaggerated.

Jobs need trucks. Daily driving doesn’t.

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I remember a guy called into Car Talk asking about what he should buy. After describing his needs they recommended a smaller or midsize car. The guy said “But what about when I need to haul stuff?” They asked him how often he actually did that and he said about 2-3 times a year. They said to save himself thousands of dollars and get the smaller vehicle and rent a truck for a fraction of the cost for the few times he needed to haul stuff.

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4 points

No way it can fit groceries lol.

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Dude, I drive a Miata, and a 1st gen rx7. I can think of maybe 2 times I’ve needed to drive my husbands car (which is a veloster, so not terribly large either) in the 8 or so years of Miata ownership. At least one of those times was because I didn’t want to drive the RX7 from San Diego to Los Angeles with no air conditioning, no power steering, and a relatively heavy clutch, in the middle of summer, in rush hour traffic. Not because what I was picking up wouldn’t fit in the rx7.

What exactly do you need to do multiple trips for?

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7 points

This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I’ve heard about small cars lol

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43 points

My dream car is a Nash Metropolitan converted to an EV.

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That’s a pretty sweet ride.

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Bro if you could get a used leaf gen one (they run around 4k), you could take that thing to a drag strip and absolutely turn some heads.

I have a friend who wants to take my gen one leaf and do a conversion. He just went to an EV mechanics course on it.

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You’d chop up a nash, and put an ev motor in it? I do not have kind words for you.

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When I was in high school back in the late 70s you’d still see a few of those around. My friend had one, but not for long. Someone had put in a more powerful motor and if she wasn’t careful accelerating she would snap the drive shaft.

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11 points

That would be fucking dope. I’d love for retrofuturist cars like this to appear

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1 point

Lovely car! Btw: how do you put a picture in a comment? What sorcery is this?

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I’m on desktop, so how I do it is right-click, copy image, then just paste into the post. Not sure how to do it on mobile.

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Oh! Ok. I don’t know if that possible in Mlem (iOS app). Thanks!

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Got it! it just needs the ![](url) markdown formatting. Thanks a lot. Cheers!

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6 points

I wish we got the Honda E. Would buy that up in a heartbeat.

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3 points

Definitely would love a Honda E, got a Chevy Bolt EV as it seemed like the next best option here.

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I’m usually not a hatch fan but that little car looked awesome. I got my last new gas powered manual transmission car before EVs are the main thing. Since I work from home and don’t drive a bunch my plan is to keep it as long as I can and get an EV in 4-5 years when hopefully infrastructure catches up a bit and more manufacturers have an option and work out small kinks.

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3 points

Same with a 1959 Panhard PL 17. Some of those little old cars are just beautiful.

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I’ve only seen one in person once, but I’ve loved it for years.

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