Essentially, there have been two reactions over on grad today:

  1. I didn’t vote, neither of the candidates were going to stop the war in the Gaza Strip, therefore, there could be no good outcome for the US, therefore I can’t be held accountable
  2. I voted for a third party, which Republicans will have to acknowledge and respect
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This was my ex. A single issue voter about a war another country is waging. Fuck Israel but got damn letting Ukraine die because of your fuckin morals is ridiculous.

Lefties suck, they don’t have their way and don’t vote. This is why no progress happens.

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I wouldn’t call people like that a leftist. Left is progress, Right is conservatism. Their choices led to less progress so they’re not lefties.

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Pretending that Shitface winning the election is good for Palestine is also just mind boggingly moronic. Zero sympathies, they brought this onto themselves.

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Agreed

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“There wasn’t a no genocide option, so I decided the more genocide option was fine.”

The lives of minorities aren’t worth a handful of minutes to tankie fucks.

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If we forget the polarisation, could we kiss both slurping on the same 30ct instant ramen noodle? 👉 👈 (srs)

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“I’m white and don’t care, so what’s the difference between one genocide and three?”

Millions of lives.

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The tide is sure as fuck going to be shifted. They got that part right.

If you want a preview about how any of these dummies that are actually in the US are going to behave, look for the reaction of the civilian Germans after World War 2. For the most part, it was, “This is awful and unfair, I can’t believe they would be so mean to us, when we didn’t even do anything.”

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That reaction was tune down, due to the country being occupied. It pretty much took the Nazis having to shut up for a few decades, by threat of prison to end up with a somewhat pro democracy population.

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Please do not compare Nazi Germany to the US. The Holocaust was and is very real to a lot of people and you are disrespecting those who were murdered.

You can hate the US all you want. Just don’t casually about talk Nazi Germany like it was some random historical event. Millions of people died.

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There are people who went through the holocaust who compared Trump in 2016 to Hitler. They, if anyone, understand the gravity of the comparison, and made it a little bit carefully. But they said that the way he speaks, the way everyone who is his enemy is an animal who must be destroyed, is very similar.

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I know you’re all going to have to get this out of your system, so go ahead. Mock the leftists who stubbornly refused to vote for Kamala. Assign the blame for fascism taking over on those who could not see past their principles to the bigger picture (at least, as you see it). Eventually, you’re going to have to move on and acknowledge that the blame cannot fall solely on them.

I voted for Kamala Harris. I, like most of you, felt strongly that doing so was necessary to prevent a far worse outcome. In the short term. The truth is, those that you mock for failing to see what was so plain to you were looking past it to an even larger picture, and that is why they could not see the strategic necessity of their vote. Why they chose not to see it, just as many of you choose not to see something that is very plain to them, the inevitability of this outcome.

Kamala Harris began her campaign to thunderous applause from those who were hopeful that the Democratic Party was finally embracing progressive ideals, only to then abandon and insult those very same hopefuls while moving further to the right than even Biden dared go. Kamala Harris then also proceeded to approach the economically anxious right with the same limp-wristed and tired economic messaging that has consistently failed to address the concerns of the working class. She campaigned as a moderate old Republican, the very same that the Republican electorate abandoned in favor of Trump.

A large number of progressives and radical leftists saw this and surrendered. They sacrificed their hope for change and reform to preserve their principles, and embraced accelerationism where previously they resisted it. I felt what they felt but held onto hope not because I truly believed Kamala Harris would turn around, but because I feared that we were not ready. I voted for Kamala Harris because I wanted to buy just a little more time, but fascism is here now, and we’ve run out of time.

Accept responsibility, stop assigning blame, we can’t afford to. Accept responsibility not because you are at fault, but because no one else will.

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embraced accelerationism where previously they resisted it

The “some of you will die but that’s a sacrifice that I’m willing to make” strategy that has no historical evidence, and in in fact a fair amount of counter evidence, that it had ever worked? That’s a bold move cotton. I sure am glad that people that I love and care about are all but certain to see untimely deaths because of it.

Accept responsibility, stop assigning blame, we can’t afford to. Accept responsibility not because you are at fault, but because no one else will.

Way ahead of you.

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I made it clear that I don’t agree with their decision. I despise accelerationism as much as you do. I am trying to make the point that those who made the decision not to vote or to vote third party were driven to do so by a variety of factors that could have been avoided.

They should accept responsibility for the consequences of their decisions, but many of them are not, and it’s fair to be frustrated with that. Another who will not accept responsibility for this outcome is the Democratic party, and they will be very happy to shift blame to leftists who did not vote.

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I despise accelerationism as much as you do.

<3. Sorry about that. It’s been a bit of an upsetting time.

Democratic party, and they will be very happy to shift blame to leftists who did not vote.

I mean, in this case, they are objectively correct when it comes to the statistics. The Right always wins when voters sit out elections and protest votes (and non-votes) only helped them in the current FPTP system.

The neolib captured Democratic party refusing to move left at all didn’t help but, lack of participation is what allowed it to happen in the first place. Our fellow leftists have continually decided to ignore the basic numbers and be swayed by propaganda suggesting ideological purity over concrete benefit to at-risk populations and demanding seats at the table. Maybe they’ll self-reflect and take responsibility for the consequences of their actions when they see the harms that they contributed to but, I’m not holding my breath as it hasn’t happened in my lifetime despite Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, and Rojava, not to mention the impending Project 2025.

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Yep still gonna mock those Dems that didn’t vote for Kamela. The only ppl who won here are old ppl with money.

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Imagine using JucheStalin unironically as your username…

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In what way can you purge slavs more/faster than NK purges non-Juche Koreans?

Turbo-kim

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