Summary
Americans, frustrated with high prices despite a strong economy, voted for change with Donald Trump’s election. Trump promises to reverse Biden-era policies, vowing steep tariffs, tax cuts, and mass deportations.
Economists warn his plans could worsen inflation, increase the federal deficit, and destabilize growth. The Peterson Institute predicts Trump’s tariffs could drive up costs for American consumers, while deportations could shrink GDP by $5.1 trillion.
His proposed tax cuts could add $4.1 trillion to the deficit, while economists question his willingness to address fiscal imbalances through spending cuts.
Sorry, folks! Only inflation, death, and Great Depression 2.0 ahead. Moose out front should have told, ya.
Don’t forget the next great pandemic . This time with less chicken and pork… mabe beef too. Tbh probably alot of other goods.
Economic change will come. Food +15-35% Imported goods +20-45% Taxes will rise Wages will stagnate Unions will be busted Social services will be discontinued
If tariffs are instated, unions will gain a huge amount of leverage in those industries domestically, even with a hostile NLRB.
You think fascists aren’t going to criminalize unions? The constitution, rule of law, precedent… None of these arbitrary barriers mean anything to tyrants, especially tyrants with no checks ave balances; commanding the most advanced war machine in history.
All of this has happened before, and ~100 million people were murdered or killed. That’s the equivalent of 400-500 million today. Europe and Asia were leveled. Nobody had nukes until the final 2 months, and those were all of the nukes in existence. Today there are several thousand.
Except they won’t be able to exercise that leverage for years, bringing manufacturing home is not just flipping a light switch. We don’t even have basics
They are going to miss the shit out of Biden before long.
Prices are already going up and layoffs are already starting in anticipation of the tariffs.
All the while, Trump and his rich buddies are going to rob us blind.
I wonder what the new social security retirement age is going to be.
I wonder what the new social security retirement age is going to be.
Death will set you free.
No they won’t miss Biden . They will keep blaming the immigrants and vote Trump.
The beatings will continue until the promises of Trump are achieved… They will cheer for the beatings and say the only reason it isn’t working because there aren’t more beatings m
Very true. It’s been this way since forever. It’s a lot like big-C Communism: conservatism can never fail, only people can fail conservatism by not doing it HARD enough or properly enough, etc…same cult-like belief. It doesn’t matter how miserable conservative policies make everyone (but the very upper 1% of 1%), we aren’t doing enough of it.
social security retirement age
Retirement age will be two years after you die.
I am too, which is why am buying appliances I’ve been putting off and a gaming PC before the end of the year and getting my garden ready to go and got my deep freezer full of food.
Oh just to share the phyrric victory of Trump’s last round of tariffs.
https://taxfoundation.org/blog/international-trade-commission-tariffs/
TLDR:
Through one lens, the tariff policy was a success. Imports of washers declined steadily between 2017 and 2022. The ITC reports that imports were 90 percent lower in 2022 than they were in 2017. As a consequence, the “domestic industry gained market share and improved its financial performance during the 2018-22 period,” the ITC determined.
The irony, however, is that the entire increase in domestic market share was driven by washers made by Samsung and LG in their new U.S. factories. The fortunes of the incumbent domestic manufacturers not only failed to improve—they continued to decline.
…
The results suggest that cheap imports were not the problem for incumbent domestic producers who sought protections, nor were the protectionist tariffs the solution. Incumbent producers proved unable to compete before and after the protections.
In the case of the washers it still generated USA based jobs. I think the major concern is things that aren’t manufactured in the USA atscale or at all. Computer chips come to mind with the majority being imported. It’ll take time to build factories and train workers.
The point of that Trump tarrif plan was to bolster the current American company manufacturing and did nothing but cost American manufacturing companies and the continued decline of actual American companies.
This cockamamie plan for blanket tariffs isn’t going to produce anything close to washers and like you said chips.
Speaking of computer chips, which Biden/Harris spurred on with the CHIPS Act with a TSMC plant in Arizona, that has problems getting skilled workers, we import a lot of raw materials to produce then as well as higher cost of labor. Add tariffs.
Now think of food, we actually export a ton of it. Now think about tariffs, those going down just like with Trump tariffs when other countries retaliated in the trade war, costing billions.
We import a shit ton of food, both in season and out of season, why do you think we still have tomatoes in winter. Blanket tariffs and good luck bringing that back that never existed.
Same goes for clothing, shoes, we don’t make those we don’t have the factories, labor, or enough raw materials. Tariffs.
I’m not against targeted tariffs, they can produce results, though like above might not be what you actually wanted, but this trumpian fever dream isn’t a smart idea.
Fwiw, appliances and computers have not really been affected by inflation, it’s more housing, health care, childcare, groceries and gas
So
-
We’re not talking about inflation due to COVID and corporate price gouging, we’re taking about tariffs.
-
Appliances and computers would suffer from tariff-induced inflation because the parts come from China and elsewhere not the US.
-
Housing was affected, mostly new home prices, with his Canadian lumber tarrifs. Which is another story of tarrifs not always working as intended.
People about to be surprised that the leopards are eating their faces.
