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  • Saving Money
  • Better for environment
  • It’s safer for everyone
  • No need to find a parking spot :D
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  • More social interaction opportunities
  • Can go for a drink without having to think about it
  • Don’t have to work for the benefit of the automotive and oil industries
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If you live in a car dependent country (like the US), you will have to use a car sadly (if you aren’t living in a city).

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I save a huge amount of money compared to somebody with a car. HUGE.

  • I don’t have to pay off the car,
  • I don’t need to buy a driver’s licence,
  • I don’t need to pay road tax,
  • I don’t need to pay for an annual MOT,
  • I don’t need to pay for service checkups,
  • I don’t need to pay for fuel/oil/fluids/parts that wear out or break,
  • I don’t need to pay for insurance,
  • I don’t need to pay for parking spaces, etc etc.

All I need to pay for is a bus, tram, or train ticket, and I can easily get anywhere in the city with minimal walking time.

And heck, that’s cheap. All the buses are capped at £2.00 regardless of the journey length, for example! Two quid!

There are a lot of other benefits too. For example, I don’t have to worry that someone will nick my car, and I don’t have to make sure I live somewhere with parking available.

Owning a car just seems like such a ball and chain, especially considering how fragile that relationship can be. One day everything’s great, the next day boom, you need to fork out 2 grand for repairs, or maybe the car’s just… gone.

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2 quid buses is amazing. Shitey First Bus doesn’t even get me out of the first zone for 2 quid.

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Move to Vienna, 365 euros for all year day and night (weekends and public holidays) public transport. Half of it if your company pays the other half. And if you use Wien Energie you’ll get some free days electricity on top.

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Only issue I have is folks should have a driver’s licence, to be able to safely operate a car in an emergency or unexpected situation. Just to give you the option.

I understand it would be rare to need to step in as driver if you committed to this lifestyle, but it would be better to be safer than sorry

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Do you mean safely operate a car, or legally operate a car? Learning the basics to safely operate a car is fairly straightforward and good fun, at least to a level that’s on par with a typical licensed driver. However going through the whole process to get a formal drivers license is a different matter and is often quite expensive.

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In many states you can train with a family member, and the application is 30-50 bucks. Not free, but you shouldn’t operate a car without a license.

Colorado for example,

Complete a written test, complete several hours supervised driving, eye test, driving test, pay.

Could probably be done in a week then you’re legal

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I agree with all of this and will add that personally it helps keep me even fitter as I cycle to work everyday and will cycle or skate depending on the distance to anywhere feasible.

The only downside is the adhorrent prices on the trains over here. The amount they charge is quite frankly disgusting!

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Sounds like you’re lucky where you live. Where I lived in the UK there was no way you’d be able to get around with just public transport.

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I lived in a walkable city for a decade and now live in a more rural area where cars are a necessity.

Now that I need a car, I need to:

  • Keep my driver’s license up to date
  • Pay tolls/monitor my transit account
  • Renew my registration every year
  • Get the car inspected every year
  • Pay for my car insurance
  • Remember to refuel
  • Keep up with oil changes and general maintenance
  • Monitor tires and wipers for degradation
  • Keep the interior clean and tidy
  • Budget extra money away for more expensive repairs or service
  • Deal with snow removal for a driveway

As someone with ADD the extra responsibilites are stressful and often slip by me, not to mention the costs add up. It’s also omnipresent in my mind that on any given day that I drive, especially on the highway, statistically that is the most likely way I will die considering my current age and health. I don’t miss carting my groceries around in the snow or rain, and it’s nice to be able to move large, heavy items relatively easily, but man I miss the freedom of just leaving my door and walking somewhere.

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Growing up with cars as the norm, you don’t realize how much it sucks till you list it out like that.

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I keep wondering whether I raised my kids right or deprived them. My older is 18 and has no interest in driving - he’s also anxious about his adhd. But I’ve had to really push to get him to do any time behind the wheel. My younger is really jumping on the opportunity to drive but expects to live in a walkable city with transit like we do now - he’s used to being able to go anywhere without a car

That’s all well and good, and we should all aspire to that, but what are the chances they can live without cars here in the US? They probably should be able to, even if they think “most places you do t need a car”

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It’s certainly possible to live in a walkable place but it’ll be very expensive. Most actually walkable areas in the US are in well established cities in the east where the “bones” of their layout were built before the GM conspiracy played out. I could barely afford to live there at the time and probably couldn’t afford to live there now. There are still some towns out there that haven’t lost their downtown main streets though. Unfortunately I think the path forward for the moment looks like settling for car dependency and pushing your local area to make positive changes for pedestrians and alternative transport.

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I currently live in a very walkable area.

Rent is indeed significantly more expensive, but not when factoring rent/transportation together. (At least in my experience).

For an equivalent apartment in the suburbs & a car, it comes out as roughly the same cost as my current apartment without a car.

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Not having to spend money on insurance, maintenance, fuel, repairs, etc.

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Even using expensive SBB for work is a bit cheaper than using a car.

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SBB?

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Swiss Federal Railways (Schweizerische Bundesbahnen)

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Schweizer Bundes Bahn

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