cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/3197004
Source: https://landgeist.com/2023/08/12/births-outside-of-marriage-in-europe/.
There has to be some (dis)incentive to have children without marriage in some contries and not others.
I Germany I guess people think you might as well marry when having children because you get extra money, less taxes whatever and maybe that’s not the case in other countries.
Marriage is a civil institution in Germany. A church marrying you has exactly as much legal power as a random citizen doing it: None. You get married at the civil registry office, by a bureaucrat (but yes they’re amenable to some mild ceremony)
What about the whole Christian no-sex-before-marriage? Has to contribute at least something
Another very important factor is that in Germany it’s extremely difficult to become the official father of a child when you’re not married to the mother. This obviously comes with a lot of problems. For example when the mother suffers complications during birth. It’s just way easier to marry instead of doing all of that paperwork.
In Germany there are massive tax advantages to getting married. That is why a lot of people get married in late December of each year.
I don’t think you can call it discrimination if no one is excluded from marrying.
It is a discrimination since not everyone will find somebody to marry. And even if everybody could marry, it still is a discrimination towards not married people.
Marring for the purpose to get tax benefit and oder advantages is a sign of discrimination, because they are marring to get advantages in society.
Society is full of discriminations that people have normalised and so they don’t see it as such.
Can we get another map about inceptions out of mariage? Many marry only after learning they will be parents.
Iceland, nice.
In Germany the difference between former East and West Germany is very interesting. While in the East it is roughly 55% in the west it is much lower, also with clear differences from north to south: https://www.iwd.de/artikel/unehelich-na-und-291746/
This is not what I would have expected given the general tendency seems to be “eastern block = less”. Curious about why this is reversed in Germany (and Bulgaria apparently).
To be honest I dont get your comment. Can you maybe explain more? For me the distribution looks exactly like what I would have expected considering our history.
I mean looking at the other numbers on the map, the eastern countries generally seem to have much lower outside-marriage birth rates yet east Germany has higher rates than the west. I’d have expected closer numbers to e.g. Poland in east Germany and closer to France/Belgium/Netherlands in the west.
Honestly, that still sounds very high. I’m in the prime birthing age and hardly anyone in my peer group is married, yet many have kids.
That’s anecdotal, sure, but it also implies that there’s a huge population of married child bearers. Where are those?
Bayern is higher than BaWü: https://www.iwd.de/artikel/unehelich-na-und-291746/
