‘You’re Telling Me in 2023, You Still Have a ’Droid?’ Why Teens Hate Android Phones / A recent survey of teens found that 87% have iPhones, and don’t plan to switch::undefined

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87% of US teens. Here in Germany I see a big mix of devices in teenagers and grown ups hands and nobody seems to care about it.

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Yep. The popularity of iPhones in US doesn’t represent the rest of the world. iPhone users are the minority in Finland. No one is complaining about green chat bubbles because iPhone users have to use WhatsApp aswell.

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25 points

same here, hearing about green chat hate was completely bonkers to me.

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13 points

It’s annoying that people have to use a Meta program.

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Why? It’s easy to use, there’s no ads, has many features, etc.

Is it only because it’s owned by a big corp?

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I did ask my teen, who said that while the bubble color is fun to tease someone about, it really doesn’t matter since they’re more likely using SnapChat or some other app, rather than texting

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There are still enough people who are obnoxious about it, and most of them seem to be iPhone users interestingly

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Drummed up marketing.

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I still remember Apple’s ‘Mac vs. PC’ campaign and even then I thought it would just encourage (even more) elitism amongst Apple users…

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They also always refer to it as “my iPhone”, never “my phone”, at least all the users I have met (NL). I find this very odd.

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2 points

Like the vegans of smartphones

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As an iPhone user who was not obnoxious about it I’ve seen a fair share of pushy android user in school. Then again so were the Xbox vs PlayStation kids. They’ll grow out of it.

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One would hope. But there are two many adults who need to pick sides.

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I see a big mix of devices in teenagers and grown ups hands

Casually observed anecdotal evidence is even more worthless than a survey.

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It is an American problem.

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It’s almost entirely due to peer pressure created by apple. They bully people who can’t use ichat. My family does this to me, and I’m way too old for that shit.

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I troll them back by writing out: Liked “Copy-paste-of-your-whole-message”

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The peer pressure isn’t created by Apple. It is creation of their own mind. Their own lack of self confidence.

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No. Apple literally refuses to make iMessage display Android messages correctly. It’s not even peer pressure. Apple probably already has a solution, but fixing thier software isn’t worth the possibility of losing customers.

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87% seems insanely high unless the survey was being done inside an apple store or something. But the article just keeps asking if I’m a robot, so I can’t actually read it.

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But the article just keeps asking if I’m a robot

At some point you’ll just have to come to terms with it.

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72 points

Ah, the easy days of being an obnoxious asshat while mum and dad buy your expensive tech for you.

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8 points

Let them enjoy it, they have yet to grasp how dire the situation is.

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When I was that, I became a Linux user the moment I realized I can’t just use XP or 2000 (what was on our home PC) on a laptop coming with 7, cause no drivers. Some literacy followed.

What I really felt bad about - everybody around carrying that expensive tech without any understanding of it, as if it were normal to use a portable personal computer for Instagram, Facebook, making photos etc. Like hitting nails with a microscope.

It’s actually become less disgusting today. Back then (around 2012) normies would aggressively behave as if progress looked like Instagram, Facebook etc, with their dumb screen poking, and my idea of how computing would be cool is something stupid and old and imaginatory , as if they had any understanding to evaluate that.

OK, just a little flashback.

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87% of teens are lazy fucks who don’t know how to download an app that isn’t TicTok, surprised?

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It’s scary how tech illiterate most teens / young adults are. Despite the fact that they live their lives through digital interfaces, the majority do not know how to use a keyboard properly.

I wrongly had assumed that by being surrounded by so much tech, young people would just soak it in and strive to optimize it’s use through early mastery. It turns out that despite everyone using tech all the time now, it’s still the same thin slice of the pie that scratch the tech any deeper than the top surface.

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45 points

I feel like we’re getting old. Is this our “kids these day can’t even change their own oil” moment?

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24 points

I couldn’t imagine any of these kids having to deal with a dos prompt.

Then again the thought of having to be on instagram robs me of control over bodily functions.

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29 points

They are the new boomers now. Like even basic folder navigation is something that is difficult for them.

https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z

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Holy shit, yes. I took over some job stuff from a younger guy and when they passed me his files they were all in one giant folder on his Mac. I couldn’t find anything!

It’s like having everything from your house in a single room with the toilet next the the oven.

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Tbf, I don’t use prefer clicking thro a series of folders. I rather have a fuzzy finder that help me open any important documents regardless of its format.

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No kidding. I’m in my late 30s and regularly have to help 18-24 year old coworkers with connecting their phones to the bluetooth speakers or help with stuff on the computer. I never thought that would happen when I was growing up. I always thought they’d be much better than me!

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It feels like a bell curve of technological literacy… most boomers knew jack shit, gen x has a decent amount of tech literates, Millenials are the peak, and then it seems to have started dropping back down from there.

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But that kinda makes sense. They never had that period where tech sucked and you had to struggle through it. Even as a developer I’m noticing the junior developers amazed at the stuff i know how to do and they ask how i soaked it all up. It’s cuz i had to just to get basic shit to function.

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I think these days either being into PC gaming, streaming, video editing, etc is what provides the motivation to become tech literate with how lot of people these days may not own a device that runs a desktop OS and either uses a phone or console for gaming. Otherwise, being in an ecosystem that just hands people everything by design makes even folder navigation something that can be confusing for new generations as it was for boomers.

https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z

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Young gen Z here. I remember time when casual adults (not nerds interested in tech) considered kids the experts. From perspective of time I can guess it was because they didnt have any ‘digital sense’ and saw kids playing on mobile devices.

However these days… I everyday see peers using tech in ways we living in tech bubble consider inproper. They use proprietary software, charge battery to 100% and discharge it to full 0, dont care about privacy, accept bloatware instead of flashing rom/uninstalling with adb, they dont know what bootloader is, dont check repairability of devide before purchase, accept everything soldered into motherboard, they think LLM arent just large next-word suggester, they dont boycott companies shitting on them, they use trademarked words while meaning generic things like ‘googling’ and ‘ipad’, post their real profile photos on facebook, they accept predatory monetization models.

I dont want to say Im smarter than everyone, but Im just sad that this gen fell so low.

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Part of what happened is schools stopped teaching the muggle kids basic computer skills, assuming “they’re young so they must innately know this,” and went all-in on locked down Chromebooks for everything. The average household doesn’t own a computer, just uses phones, and schools took away the only opportunity for them to have exposure to real computers.

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I agree with the first part, but knowing about bootloader and flashing rom to a new phone is hackerman level, not a regular tech-savvy user.

New generations having hacking skills is more like a cyberpunk novel, reality is lower attention spans, worst reading skills and over-simplified UIs. People gravitate to the simpler way.

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Exactly, I feel like what used to be a “ask a 14yr old” type tech question is now an “ask a 40yr old”

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Using “to google” actually invalidates the trademark eventually, since it becomes generalized

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