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We’re also the only country in the developed world without socialized medicine.

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On top of that Americans pay more healthcare related income taxes than anyone else! Those could well be used to cover the expenses of a socialized system. It’s absolutely amazing that people think they don’t need it.

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the US actually pays about double at $9K per capita.Most of the rest of the cdeveloped countries pay about $3-4K per capita for healthcare.

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This sounds way more important than people wearing different clothing than you’d expect reading to children in a library, but you guys know best.

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Just so it’s very clear how ridiculous the situation truly is.

The US government pays per capita about double what other developed countries do for healthcare AND Americans still need to pay for private insurance over that, which on average is also more than what other countries spend per capita for the same services…

Even with all that money spent, life expectancy in the USA is closer to some Latin American countries than it is to Canada’s and infant mortality is the highest of all Occidental rich countries and is pretty much equal to China’s.

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UnitedHealth Group - $88 billion in profit last year.

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The amount of propaganda US citizens are exposed to would make any totalitarian regime in history proud. And then people will go on about how CNN is somehow “left wing”.

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6 points

I think hitler might be a centrist in the United States.

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12 points

They cannot allow that someone “undeserving” gets help.

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Sad to be honest. People are actively demanding the dismantle of welfare state here in the Nordics too. Arbeit macht frei and so on.

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We do have socialized medicine. We socialize the research and innovations and give it to corporations and insurance companies for them to have profits.

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Privatized profit, socialized losses

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And the Europeans take advantage of it lol

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Why wouldn’t they? And any American who is mad at Europeans for that and not the system their own country made that enables it is a complete moron.

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Idk about others, but Singapore doesn’t really have socialized healthcare.

We pay for it with our salaries into an account and the hospitals use that when necessary.

But we have all the luxury to have personal insurance and it doesn’t really cost too much if you have a proper job and all. Coverage is pretty decent too.

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6 points

Same here. Its called… taxes.

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5 points

They probably meant universal health care, which can be implemented in a lot of different ways.

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That’s not true at all. While Medishield is the basic healthcare insurance solutions and Medisave comes from your CPF, Medifund is an endowment fund that works like a financial safety net to help needy Singaporeans who cannot afford hospital expenses despite Medisave and MediShield.

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Germany also has a hybrid private / public system.

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Which countries have that?

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Yep, and given my experience talking with other US citizens about universal healthcare, they’ll argue how it’s some how a bad thing. It’s just a reoccurring thing, people seem to be programmed to hate stuff that’d help them.

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Fox News is a helluva propaganda tool

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It’s been making our citizens dumber since 1996

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Tbf, universal healthcare sucks when it’s done poorly. Does anybody really trust the US government with our healthcare?

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More than I trust Aetna.

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Do you trust a company that is required to provide profit to their shareholders by providing you the least possible amount of healthcare?

Health insurance in the US is very complicated. It’s a feature, not a bug. They don’t want you to use it.

Oh, but government death panels. Have you ever had to get a pre-authorization for care that would save your life? Or had a claim denied because that one person that was in the operating room while you were under anesthesia was out of network? Yeah, it’s actually corporate death panels.

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What? Are you Scott Adams?

The right are the ones against things that would help us.

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I mean, there is no left in America. It’s far right or center at best.

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Trying to read in good faith, maybe the user meant to refer to (right wing) Libertarianism or neoliberalism.

Back before “liberal” became the preferred slur the American right could say in public, they would often seek to brand their ideology as liberalism in order to draw legitimacy from the high standing of classic liberalism. Libertarianism has liberal roots, it just blows a single element (freedom from state intervention) completely out of proportions.

Academically, the father of Libertarianism (Robert Nozick) makes for a fun and interesting read, but he was torn to shreds by John Rawls (and, in my opinion and less famously, Michael Otsuka). If I remember correctly he ended up abandoning his own theory. Still it seems to have a particular appeal to Americans and their obsession about the self made man, property rights, and private wealth accumulation.

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You know fascism is not the only alternative to liberalism. Liberalism is a center-right ideology in most of the developed world - even the American politicians fascists use as Boogeymen are mostly Social Democrats not liberals.

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I don’t know who Scott Adams is, but googled it. I am no racist.

It’s just funny, you say sth. against the stupid and inhuman liberalism in the USA and suddenly some idiot comes and says sth. stupid. That’s what I meant - it’s a mental illness.

And yes, the other people here are right. There is no left in the USA and it shows. It’s just right-wing or more right-wing.

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Fuck liberals, but maybe you can get the point across without the ableism?
People choose to be liberal, those of us who are mentally ill didn’t.

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Jesus. In so many ways, the USA really is a shithole country, fuck our lives smh.

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Our government is corrupt to the core. If you ain’t rich, fuck you.

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Let’s see $1 million medical bills, no health insurance, no paid medical leave, no consumer protection laws, trans genocide attempts, corporations are “people,” a minimum wage of $7.25 and much more.

Is it rich for like three people?

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They said “rich country”, not “a country of rich people”.

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I liked when Biden finally decided to suspend the military budget for the next 5 years, seeing as the U.S. is already operating a behemoth of an army no one dares confront. So the $5 trillion dollars they will now redirect to the public over the next 5 years is going to make a monstrous wave of positivity for the US for decades to come. /s

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30 states require minimum wage higher than the federal requirement

4 states plus DC have minimum wage over $15/hr

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This means nothing if Republicans take power again

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Can we make that 4? 🥺👉👈

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Why, you ask?

Because the system is corrupt by design. Politicians rely on legal bribes to stay in power and enrich themselves and the people and corporations who oppose treating workers fairly are the ones with the deepest pockets.

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