I love mine and use it almost all the time. Its a Surfans f20 with rockbox native installed. Makes it feel like I’m using my old ipod lol
I still miss my old iRiver with Rockbox… definitely been thinking about getting a proper PMP again.
I see very little reason to use these over a regular smartphone 🤔 but the same is true for watches and people still rock those as well, so you do you! It does look like a nifty gadget.
The reason is quality. Many smartphones have poor audio output quality. It’s all about the DAC (for digital to analogue conversion) and finding a phone you want (and can afford) that also has a good DAC leads people to invest in a stand-alone device. There are some LG devices, Sony obviously, but with phones dropping 3.5mm jacks they are becoming rarer.
If you look at the comparisons here you’ll also notice that the prices get up there. Now, once you go hi-res DAP, you don’t go back. I am a bit of an audiophile, but I’m also a cheapskate. When I finally decided to get an OK DAP I went for entry-level device and entry-level in-ear (hi-res) buds and now I realise that I was not, in fact, an audiophile because now I notice the difference between lossy and lossless audio.
Also, battery! I want to save my phone battery for phone stuff. My DAP lasts 7 or 8 days of going back and forth to work. Maybe more. It has a 20h battery. It also functions as a USB DAC, so I can plug it into a computer and it replaces the sound card so it is multifunction.
Those are all fair points! I guess my priorities are just different, in the sense that I care about the convenience of having to carry just one device in my pocket.
On the topic of audiophiles, does quality really have such a big effect on the enjoyability of a song? Personally I’m perfectly fine with listening to 320kbps or even 256kbps through Bluetooth headphones.
A 320kbps or 256 VBR mp3 is pretty decent, and if it is going over BT then the BT headphones play the role of the DAC in a way. So, if the headphones are OK then the sound will be OK. So far I only notice differences on my favourite albums and certain genres. Like country, folk, and especially bluegrass sound a lot better when I find a lossless 24bit version than the 320kbps mp3. Metal as well, and a handful of electronic and classic rock albums.
I was always curious in these. I would follow sites like anythingbutipod back in the day. Cowon was usually the big one that I always wanted to try. But I could never justify the pricing to play lossless audio and also invest in quality headphones to take advantage.
I have a Hiby R6, in some ways it’s like having a phone that can’t make calls but also it’s great having a dedicated device for audio.
