Hello all. Long-time smoker, 35, male. Anything and everything but edibles. Mostly legit. Some D8 in a pinch but nowhere near the majority.
For the last four months, about once every two weeks, I’ll wake up, take a shower, walk into my living room, have a sip of water, and then run back into my bathroom, where I will vomit until the bile comes out and writhe on the floor, onto the bed, holding my stomach for 6-12 hours, screaming for God or Satan, whoever shows up first.
I’ve been in the hospital three times over the last month over it and only on the last visit was I asked if I used marijuana. There is nothing on any CT scan I’ve done, ultrasound, kidneys, liver, pancreas, appendix.
“Well I’ve never heard of this gobbledygook and I also have no idea how to search for stuff!”
Apparently, had you the genetic disposition, cannabinoids can bind to your stomach, and the sphincters to and from it, altering the timeframe it takes for your stomach to empty and the lagging or simply disabling entirely of the functions of the bottom of your esophagus until it’s over. You’ll be screaming in pain for around 8 hours. Buckle up.
Do I believe Cannabis is solely responsible?
The disease is rare and only shows up in people (usually men) who smoke daily for two or more years. I’ve been smoking daily for ten.
(Obligatory) Psyop?
If it were, I’d expect a little more than a matter-of-fact “quit and you’ll be ok”. Usually money or some type of group wants your attention from such things. I’m more leaning to this being a legitimate disease, and peers are kind-of agreeing on it. Multiple sources seem to be finding the same conclusions and I haven’t met a Doctor yet who hasn’t heard of it in some capacity.
I’m open to bribes, though.
I don’t blame cannabis. I smoked it. It didn’t jump in my mouth and light itself. I don’t blame anyone else. I am unlucky, genetically speaking. You may never get it. You may never have a single symptom, or you might. If weed works for you, fantastic. It worked for me for years, until it wanted to kill me one morning, such is the diceroll of living.
Edit: I’ll answer everyone after 4:30pm est. At work.
You haven’t mentioned anything about how you smoke it. Could it be something in the specific papers or instruments of choice? Have you tried real vaporizers (not pens, but like a plastic bag that blows vapor into it), you said not edibles, so have you considered trying them? What about alcohol tinctures or smoking hash?
Easy. Usually I use a glass one-hitter and I kept whatever Delta 8 vape I could find on me when out in public. I had a bong I’d use on occasion but usually not that often. I do have a few dry herb vapes like my arizer air but it didn’t get much use really.
I’m not considering trying anything. Not smoking weed isn’t a problem… it’s just not preferred.
Had you thirty minutes with this shit, it would scare and traumatize the living hell out of you. It is not a good time. There’s sick and then there’s this. 8 hours, non-stop, pain. I have legitimate nightmares.
I personally believe the disease reacts to cannabinoids in your system. How they get there is irrelevant.
I had episodes of this so badly I had to go to the hospital because I couldn’t even drink water without throwing it back up and needed IV fluids. The stomach spasms are among if not the worst pains ive ever felt. It would take days for me to feel ready to eat actual meals again. Changed my whole diet, dropepd nicotine, caffeine, weed, everything. Picked weed back up after my stomach was clean for a bit and its been years since, no issue. Im hoping you can eventually smoke again, at least if you want to.
I’ve heard a few people talking about delta-8. Personally I like my weed au naturelle. Was the D-8 you were vaping synthesised?
D8 so far as I know is all at least halfway synthetic.
As a realist, I look at chemicals like that on the basis that the chemical itself may be harmful, and not the fact that it’s synthetic.
I’ve never vomited my guts out over fake strawberry flavoring or vanillin even though this is anecdotal.
What was your daily use like (amount and approximate potency)?
Have you ceased use, if so how long ago, and how have your symptoms changed?
I wish you the best of luck, a close friends brother just went through the same and it sounds absolutely awful. I’ve heard hot baths help a ton!
Any chance of it happening again is unacceptable to me now that I have experienced it. I can’t let a personal vice tilt on a maybe, and while I kinda expected Delta 8 to be a target. Many classic flower users get it who never put a cart to their lips.
I will do anything to avoid ever feeling that sick again.
Jesus, that sounds awful. I’m genuinely sorry you’re suffering. It sucks that something that can legitimately help someone (or at the very least, make them happy) is hurting you so much.
I’ve had similar issues to what you’ve described and a long cessation (2+ weeks) from pot fixed my issues, though it slowly gets better and may take longer.
I still smoke daily and just have to be careful not to smoke too much or the wrong strain. I’ve found that smoking one strain for too long ( more than an ounce, but depends on the strain) can cause symptoms to come back. Some strains cause symptoms from the first smoke too.
I can avoid 95% of stomach issues by just paying attention to my usage. I can tell I’m starting to sour on a strain when I get slight nausea after smoking or experience light heartburn / nausea when drinking coffee.
When symptoms come back I take a few days off and get some new strains and start introducing when my stomach can handle a latte
That truly sucks. I’m sorry you’re going through that.
Just one thing real quick, though, just in case. My entire family has had similar issues, and for every one of us* it has been our gallbladder. Also for every one of us, they have refused to check our gallbladders. My mom was told ulcers, which she had none. Had to have emergency surgery when her gallbladder was on the verge of ruptured. My brother was told it was his drinking (±1 drink a week), quit drinking for two years with no improvement. When they finally removed his gallbladder it was so bad it literally fell apart inside him when they tried to remove it, and he was in the hospital for a week *I’m currently going through it, and they’re telling me it’s acid reflux.
The gallbladder is the medical bigfoot. Doctors refuse to believe it exists, I’m pretty sure.
I had a sporadic stabbing pain in my lower right abdomen for over a year, and already had acid reflux issues. We did lots of different investigation paths and tests, till they finally figured out the muscles in my gallbladder were barely functional and had it removed.
Side effect, it slows your digestion and now my activation time for an edible can take up to 6 hours sometimes
Through the CT scans, I did have one doctor look at one stone that was high and ruled it out. One after told me “gallbladder looks good” so I shrugged it off. Sorry I didn’t mention it.
I am, however, going to a gastrointestinal specialist. They might find more than the ER did. Time will tell. I’m going full tilt on the issue, I’m not stopping at weed.
My fiancé had prodromal (pre-vomiting) CHS from November to January. The symptoms appeared as gallbladder hyperactivity, but the doctors wouldn’t commit to saying it was a gallbladder problem. His big break came after spending 2 nights in a hospital and apparently recovering, then getting worse after he came home. We connected it to cannabis use after he came home, and quitting cold-turkey alleviated all symptoms basically overnight.
