Been playing a lot of d4 lately. But damn if the lilith statue grind and especially the renown grind not suck out all the joy of the game…

The base of the game is good, but I really feel it needs an expansion/multiple seasons with changes to come into it’s own. So many basic functions missing, so many unfun grinds, not enough QOL by far.

I don’t regret buying it, but I do regret getting the digital “premium” edition with s1 included. Not sure if I’ll play an entire season on it tbh…

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Complaining about grinding in a Diablo game seems like an odd choice. I think Diablo might actually be the franchise that invented grinding.

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I recommend avoiding feeling like you “NEED” to rush either of them. I try to pull up a lilith map when I’m heading to some other objective and grab ones on the way that i don’t have.

Keep in mind, none of these things are going to make or break your character, hell if you never finished either you could still probably do all current content, your gear will be the biggest difference.

Both of these things are permanent account unlocks, so treat it more like something your will finish eventually and focus on hiw to keep improving your gear. Renown level 3 in every area to have max skill points is probably as far as your really need to finish to be competitive

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