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Musk and Peterson are stochastic terrorists.

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This cannot be said loudly or strongly enough.

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That Lindsey Shepherd thing and Peterson’s tiff with WLU certainly had an effect on local people. His grandstanding that looks so ridiculous to us actually sells to authoritarian personalities.

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I’ve been watching sh.itjust.works implode in hand-wringing what-ifs over the prospect of having to defederate alt-right instances to keep from having their hate speech plastered all over the internet. This is an appropriate time to remember the actual human life costs of letting people think their anti-human garbage is widely accepted.

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I moved my secondary account off there (@Quill7513@slrpnk.net, now, for transparency) because I did not feel an 8 day time gap between the community at large saying it was time to defederate from the Nazi instance to admins saying it was time to contemplate defederatonf from the Nazi instance was a short enough time frame. One of their moderator / admins seems to think that’s a very fast turnaround but I just don’t agree. If they needed to define a process first, that time was 8 days ago, when the community asked for the process to start

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They’re up to two weeks now. I mean it’s taking three or more days just to debate removing it and hold an - almost unanimous - vote. They’re sending a very clear message that they’re much more worried about showing due process towards violent fascists than looking out for the people those violent fascists would target. This whole delay after delay appears to be for the benefit of about twelve if their users, so it must mainly be for the admins themselves

I also have pretty much abandoned my account there

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I was super confused thinking those tweets were in response to this news story.

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I strongly disagree with the sentiments of these tweets but why would they be considered hate speech? What an I missing?

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IANAL but under Canadian law it probably isn’t, since people who undertake an activity were the target as opposed to a fixed, identifiable group.

You’d have to go with a different but related Jordan Peterson quote for that. There’s many to choose from.

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Musk over here trying to conflate gender-affirming hormone medication being taken by 16-17 year olds with the mutilation of children’s genitalia.

This is thinly veiled hate speech. They are straw-manning those they see as “other”, for the purpose of placing themselves in a morally superior position. It is arguably defensible lies (I didn’t mean, I just meant…), functioning as a dogwhistle to manufacture outrage over imagined extremes that aren’t actually happening, all to stir hatred in the public against LGBTQ+ people and ideologies. And they cap it off with a call to action.

This is painfully similar to how hate speech against the Jewish people started.

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This is painfully similar to how hate speech against the Jewish people started.

“The Cultural Marxists are promoting deviant behaviour to weaken Western Civilization.”

“The Jews are promoting deviant behaviour to weaken the Aryan Race.”

Yeah these guys are saying the same things now as were being said a hundred years ago. And lately a lot of people are dropping the code words.

We know what this kind of thing led to in the past.

So yeah, it’s very painfully similar.

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We all have basically the same brains we did 100 years ago.

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I know this will be an unpopular opinion in this thread but this isn’t hate speech in Canada. It’s a vile perspective shared by someone with many impressionable followers but it’s not hate speech. Labeling this exchange as hate speech weakens this term and is not useful in shifting discourse or people’s opinions.

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When you use the phrase, “hate speech in Canada,” it is clear you are using the specific legal standard for criminal speech in Canada. That is not the only definition of hate speech. More generally, anything intended to express or incite hatred is hate speech, it need not be legally found to be a crime.

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