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Wow. The SCOTUS is firing through all sorts of shitty changes this week. They’re like the koolaid man on meth.

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Gonna be this way for the foreseeable future

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OH YEAH!!!

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If there is a minimum age in government, there needs to be a maximum. I’m over these 70 year olds running things.

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Downvoted by people who refuse to look at when Democrats make stupid decisions that fuck us.

I thought Lemmy was supposed to be full of tankies, not milquetoast centrist capitalist apologists…

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libtards

I’m onboard with the spirit of the post, but I encourage you to find another insult

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He’s not wrong, just an asshole.

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It’s almost like they actually don’t care.

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such a stupid fucking system. they should just mail out little ballots to everyone on these cases. ask the question in plain english, all the legalese bullshit is designed to distract and make it seem like their jobs are hard

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Your hyperlink is wrong, it’s pointing back to the post.

Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knlJWu815C0

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for some fucking reason

The reason is that she expected Hillary to win and the satisfaction of the first female president appointing her replacement.

It’s a great example of how these justices aren’t as wise or smart as they seem to think they are.

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Expecting Hillary to be a shoe-in was just so naive. I know hardly anyone democrat or republican that actually liked her.

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Yesterday they made higher education less accessible to non-whites, today they made it harder for the poor…

I wonder if there’s a pattern here.

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Why does this make it harder for the poor to access higher education? A debt forgiveness will make current debtors less burdened but will probably make it more expensive for new applicants. Isn’t it the other way around?

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Chances are loan forgiveness would push a conversation regarding tuition fees in general, and would ultimately make university free / affordable instead.

Maybe.

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There is 0 chance that would happen with our current political climate.

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I believe he’s referencing the decision on the Harvard affirmative action case, not the student debt relief decision. Supreme Court has been busy this week!

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Relieving debt for the poor would allow them to spend their money on other things, or save it. Best case scenario, they’re able to support their kids’ educations and help break the generational cycle of poverty.

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Honestly, this decision wouldn’t probably impact future college attendees. But, there are other changes coming to federal borrowing that likely will. Income based repayment is being restructured and it’s looking pretty good.

However, this will probably hurt the economy. A lot of people are about to hit repayment at a period of high inflation. It’s not a great economy. And, if a lot of people decide to ignore their student loan bills a la 2008 financial crisis, were in for a global economic doozy.

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It will impact future college attendees insofar as being more poor impacts your chances of going to college. It won’t directly impact future college attendees, but there is a knock on effect which will to some extent.

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The US has historically low unemployment, but real wages have stagnated for more than 50 years.

The economy is actually pretty great – for those at the top. Not so much for those doing the real work:

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Can’t believe this was down voted for asking a legitimate question related to the topic. This isn’t reddit.

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Support for Biden’s student loan cancellation is for most a political calculation, where people who would be for more robust measures to make college affordable support it as a partial measure, a step in the right direction. A common right wing tactic is to stymie left wing political priorities to the point where asking questions like this seems reasonable, even though the asker is often being disingenuous and would be against any affordable college plan that increased government spending or in which the government played an otherwise larger role. If this commenter wasn’t being disingenuous, they had the unfortunate plight of absorbing a lot of built-up frustration over this tactic haha

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Yes, higher education is now less accessible to non-whites. Which is good, because affirmative action was never a fair solution to the issue and was simply unfair in principle imo. We shouldn’t raise the eligibility of people based on their race, college admissions and race should have nothing to do with one another. Class-based affirmative action actually makes sense instead of deciding off race.

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I agree with you in theory, but striking down AA without a better solution in place is bad. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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Fair enough, I agree that in reality removing AA and not implementing a better system in it’s place will only lead to worse outcomes.

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Yes, higher education is now less accessible to non-whites. Which is good,

Jesus H. Christ. Either stop being a racist or learn to organize your thoughts.

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You literally cut his quote in the middle of the sentence. He says its good specifically because it was not a result of fair treatment, right after you cut him off.

The world is upside down when you can someone saying “it’s unfair to judge people by race” a racist.

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Lmao is reading comprehension not your thing? Because my meaning was very clear and not at all racist.

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Your whole argument could have been just that last sentence and I’d bet you’d have significantly less downvotes.

Although I’m disappointed by the courts decision I do believe class basis is a better measuring stick for AA. That said, I think there would be a pretty close correlation between the people who benefit now and the people who would benefit if the system was based on socioeconomic class.

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I wholeheartedly agree that minorities are often at a disadvantage in our society, and that there is a correlation between race and socioeconomic status in the USA. I think that if true equality is to be achieved, we need to stop separating people (at least in important processes like legal proceedings, college admissions, etc.) by their race at all. It sets a bad precedent, and I hope for a future where no race has any connotation with any socioeconomic class.

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We have class based affirmative action. Rich people buy their kids into school all the time.

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Vote! Encourage those around you to vote. Help drive someone to the polls. If you know a young person who’s never voted, get them to vote.

Don’t care who they vote for, just get them to the ballot box.

The more people vote, the better things turn out for the majority.

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They are not completely within their power to pack the court, sadly. They would have done so already if this were the case. They need 60 in the senate as well as a majority in the house and the presidency. Then they could.

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I like how when Democrats are in power, they’re unable to do anything…

But when Republicans are in power, they break the law at lightning speed, do things they’re not supposed to do, and nobody stops them because actually the only thing staying in their way are “rules” and “decorum” and not “laws” and yet mysteriously the Democrats are always beholden to “laws” that prevent them from doing the same.

It’s a fucking farce.

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Technically, they don’t need 60. The cloture rule is what necessitates a 3/5ths supermajority to pass bills, but the cloture rule is not itself a law and so Senators can just… change it with a simple-majority vote. This has already happened twice in the recent past: once in 2013 when the Democrat-led Senate voted to eliminate the cloture rule when nominating federal circuit judges and once more in 2017 when the Ruplican-led Senate voted to eliminate the cloture rule when nominating supreme court justices.

FWIW: Senators tend to really hate doing this. They call it the “nuclear option” because they normally like to get a 2/3rds supermajority agreement before changing any standing Senate rules – not to mention that the cloture rule itself is often treated as a total third-rail even among the other important Senate procedures. Combining the nuclear option and killing cloture is a massive political powderkeg waiting to explode… but maybe it should?

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With that being said, you’re also correct that voting is NOT enough. Protesting and direct action, mutual aid, and more are all required!

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A) They need 50 senators willing to entertain that notion. They only have 49. B) If there were one action that I think would be most likely to kick off Civil War 2, it would be packing the court.

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Civil War 2 is already happening, you must not be paying attention.

It’s time to rip off the fucking band-aid and do something about it instead of letting the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters, and others run around terrorizing the country through wanton violence and death.

Just because it’s not a “hot” civil war yet doesn’t mean it’s not happening. One side isn’t fighting back, that’s for sure.

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Of course it upsets the Dems knowing that they’re on the only side that has to govern well and we honest.

But the alternative is for our side to be as much of a malignant tumor on the country as the other side is.

I’ll take this version of the Democratic party, despite the fact the Republicans are trying to destroy the US and rebuild it in their own image.

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Voting put three justices in-place with last president.

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Wouldn’t the Rs just do the same thing next time they have power? I get what you’re saying, but isn’t setting that precedent dangerous?

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You’re saying that as if the Rs won’t do the same thing anyway without prior provocation. They’ve literally already broken the law to pack the court and the Democrats sat on their hands. They denied Obama picking a justice because it was “too close to an election” when the election was like six months away, but let Trump pick one when an election was already underway.

Take off the fucking blinders, the Republicans already do these kind of things.

They already set the precedent.

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Yes- the court is an illegitimate anti-democratic institution and the long-term goal should be its abolishment.

It is the final tool of the American oligarchs to prevent needed structural change in the country.

Anything to highlight this is a good thing. Playing ping-pong with court expansion would be great to accelerate its necessary demise.

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R’s don’t care about precedent. That’s why they actually get what they want. If Democrats actually got things done, they would consistently win elections and it would be be an issue anyway.

It’s not going to happen anyway, though.

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Vote. But also learn useful skills for street protesting and street wars.

Learn to be a medic if you’re not wanting to be in face of the action.

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Without a socialist party (as in, completely purged and free of all bourgeois influence), there’s isn’t a whole lot worth voting for at the federal level. Democrats repeatedly show that they are incapable of resisting the Republicans and take L’s constantly (see here).

I encourage everyone to instead organize with local political orgs that can eventually build this power. The DSA being the largest currently available (and just as flawed as the other options one may have, ofc)

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Your see here link is empty and you accidentally double-posted this comment, friend.

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Yeah just fixed that, “see here” was meant to refer to this student debt situation in the OP

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I agree with your assesment of the DSA, but our audience here isn’t ready for that. I want them to get into the DSA where we can continue trashing on them until they do something more useful.

They aren’t going to go from defending Democratic Party failures to Maoist Third-Worldist guerilla fighters (the correct sect of socialists, of course) overnight.

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If you don’t feel it’s worth keeping as many Rs out of Federal roles, then no amount of examples are going to change your mind.

You can’t ignore the federal level because the Dems aren’t liberal enough.

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Here’s an example. More Rs can make it a whole lot more difficult to organize any counter movements, labor, political or otherwise.

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How many were paid off by the student loan companies.

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I was under the impression the student loan companies did not care. They were getting paid regardless.

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Maybe that is correct. I’m not sure who was giving the money back.

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The government was going to pay off the loans. This is why MOHELA publicly said it was all the same to them. Internally they projected increase revenue from forgiveness.

https://truthout.org/articles/report-central-legal-case-against-student-debt-relief-is-fundamentally-false/

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