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Please note that the official title of the article is:

Yevgeny Prigozhin: Wagner chief presumed dead after Russia plane crash.

Decided not to delete this post due to the many comments and discussions.

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Wow, I’ve been browsing Twitter, Reddit and Lemmy for the past few hours. I’m surprised to see such breaking news first in Lemmy instead of Twitter or Reddit.

Awesome! Hope the Fidiverse keeps on growing to become bigger than Reddit and Twitter.

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Look at me

Lemmy is the frontpage of the internet now

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26 points

Damn right it is!

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70 points

Good point. Really good sign for users if we can get breaking news stories here like this.

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12 points

literally the only reason i keep going to reddit to sort by rising every now and then.

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Reddit hot sorts more by popular, so things take a long time to rise up.

Lemmy hot seems to be (too much) biased to new. Can be a bad thing because it looks like things don’t get popular. They do but you don’t see it by hot, you see it by top 12 hour.

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67 points

Early 2010s Reddit was so addicting, if there was something in the world it was on the front page in 15 minutes. I remember being excited to check on Reddit after waking up to see that was the event of the day.

After 2016 the algo was screwed up and it became a cesspool of reposts and news were late to show up.

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18 points

I think the algorithm for Lemmy’s hot sorting is just based on interactions within time unit. The newer the post, the more valuable an upvote is.

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11 points

Lemmy “hot” seems to function a lot like reddit’s “rising”

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11 points

The one thing current Reddit seems to do right is give smaller subreddits a chance to show up on Hot. Lemmy tends to be a little too simple, and the frontpage gets dominated by the one or two big groups.

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Yeah, I’m pretty happy with the sorting algorithm in general for the way content gets presented, but some weighting to better include smaller communities would be great. Lemmy is still struggling with getting a critical mass in users to support niche interests, and a better post sorting could help a bit at least.

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On Reddit you want to sort by “Rising” for this sort of breaking news stuff.

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Now I learn this, 2 months after tossing that platform in the bin.

After years of wondering where the hell the breaking news went…

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Yesterday i switched to active for a while, because hot was almost identical to new.

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5 points

No problem, let’s have Hot 1 and Hot 2!

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4 points

Hot 1 is Hot

Hot 2 is Top 6 hours

At least how I use it.

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11 points

The Future is Federated.

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4 points

old man

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I saw it first on YouTube and got really mad about that

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I think it’s only a matter of time. The enshitification of reddit is guaranteed, it’s really inevitable and it’s going to keep getting worse. Long live the Fediverse!

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Who would have expected this? Surprised pikachu

But the only one who opposed Putin (with any military power) being dead isn’t necessary a good thing (imho)

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Yeah, but he was stripped of all of his power. Wagner group is being rolled into the state military. The opportunity for Wagner to push back and or give Putin the boot has passed.

And, this dude was also an evil corrupt piece of shit. If he overthrew Putin, Russia would’ve still been an authoritarian disinformation state.

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82 points

He was a straight-up Neo-Nazi and named the group after Hitler’s favorite composer. So yeah, he would have been infinitely worse than Putin… and that’s saying something.

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Wagners are straight up fleeing into neighboring countries and Africa. They must have read the history books about what happens when one warlord assimilates another’s forces (they kill them quietly and easily now that they’re disarmed).

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i don’t think, russia and historical knowledge can come together

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Seems like most reasonable folks didn’t think he’d reform Russia. The only “good” he’d cause would be unrest that would force Russia to pull out of invading their democratic neighbors.

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If he overthrew Putin, Russia would’ve still been an authoritarian disinformation state.

He would at least cause a schism between the putin fanatics and everyone else.

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But potentially a much less competent one

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But the only one who opposed Putin (with any military power) being dead isn’t necessary a good thing (imho)

Replacing one dictator with another who has the support of something like the Wagner group would not have been good for anyone but the Wagner group.

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There would be no clean replacement. It would get very bloody and chaotic. Not a bad hypothetical scenario. But that ship has sailed when Prihozhin surrendered (he didn’t stand much of a chance anyway).

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If we could avoid another “oops, all Taliban” outcome though, that would be grand.

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36 points

The most surprising thing here is that nine people were willing to get on a plane with Prigozhin. That’s arguably much closer to actual suicide than any of the convenient window deaths that keep happening.

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22 points

Good thing for Africa for sure.

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Not really. Meet your new boss, same as your old boss. Russia isn’t pulling out of Africa.

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Clearly more missiles are needed.

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18 points

Somehow I always thought they would poison him. More personal. But if he brought his own water, I suppose this saves everybody some time.

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It’s not too late for them to identify the body by the “Polonium-210 tracer” he got during check-in.

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I honestly thought he’d go via the classic window fall, but this was far more original.

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It’s not like Putin and his closest cronies are in any way competent. They are removing anyone who dared to criticize. Before the coup Prigozhin, Girkin were allowed to say whatever they wanted as long as they did not undermine the general effort. Now Putin’s inner circle will ultimately disconnect themselves from reality: govern the country and the war from a bunker filled with scared yes-sayers with no alternative voices.

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I’m pretty sure Ukraine still opposes Putin so at least we got that.

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186 points

Lotta windows in airplanes.

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Tragically the plane crashed into a surface to air missile.

Edit: yeah, this is actually what happened, no subtlety here, damn.

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Like, fucking literally.

“Crash” my ass, BBC, you say it got shot down in the article, how is that not a more accurate and sensational headline?

“Prigozhin got blown the fuck up, like everyone knew he would the moment he pussed out, the Nazi coward.”

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31 points

He needed to take Moscow, only chance he had to survive.

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Technically, they just say that a Wagner linked Telegram channel said it got shot down. They’re probably waiting for better proof/additional sources before they take the full step of saying it was shot down themselves (at which point I think it’d get added to the headline).

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Because the only source for that (at present) is the Wagner Group, who have a (dead) dog in the fight and are not bastions of truth. NYT will be trying to confirm it before saying so.

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Well, it did definitely crash at the end.

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So he fell out of a window created by a surface to air missile.

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35 points

Totally an accident of course

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I didn’t know airplanes couldn’t handle their polonium.

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more windows are reserved only for stauncher enemies.

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171 points

I’m honestly surprised that he lasted this long

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I feel like when the attempted coup fizzled out there was a Russia expert who predicted he’s be dead within 90 days. Sounds like that guy was right.

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76 points

Honestly didn’t need to be a expert on Russia to predict that

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No kidding, literally everyone figured he’d be dead soon. Not sure how he didn’t realize that.

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“Person vaguely aware of how Russia works predicts Prigozhin will be dead in 90 days”. That headline doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.

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Weirdly enough, it’s exactly two months between the mutiny and his death. Interestingly enough, the invasion started on 24th as well. Weird.

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