We’re about to enter another Reddit mass migration phase starting tonight. We’ve already attracted the users most actively engaged with the protests and Reddit’s changes—users who are driven enough to put in the effort to grow the Fediverse.

Now we need to make it feel like home to casual users and lurkers. Not just attract them for a few visits, but keep it interesting enough that they stay here in the coming weeks/months.

Major kudos to all the developers working day and night to bring us familiar-feeling apps and interfaces on insanely short timelines. But what can the rest of us do to make Kbin and Lemmy feel like home to all the new Reddit refugees? Populate Lemmy and Kbin with as much quality content as you can find!

Over the next few weeks, fill your magazines/communities with as much good the content as you can. Post comments and subscribe to things. Click that upvote button on content or comments you like.

Not sure where to find good content? Ironically, check out your favorite subreddits for ideas. Make sure we have the best of the content you can find on Reddit. See a good article or link? Post it here! Don’t be shy about posting to interactive communities like Ask Lemmy- we’re after volume.

For OC Reddit posts, see if there’s a non-Reddit page to post here. I don’t know whether it’s acceptable to copy text posts, but if you do, make sure you at least give credit/copy a link to the original post.

Basically, do everything you can to engage over the next few weeks and avoid lurking. Show off the Fediverse and welcome the next group of Reddit refugees to their new home.

Edit: I completely forgot to call out all the people hosting and upgrading instances to help with the massive influx of users and keep the sites stable. Thank you, hosts!

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Also don’t join ban happy instances like beehaw.

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They already did. Every user wants their specific admin led circlejerk with no disent. Else you’re a nazi. You don’t like it? Make your own instance.

Lemmy is not it, as it stands. Not whil users di y have cross instance user control and don’t depend on admins which are a worse version of power hungry Reddit mods with a more fanatical crowd.

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You can make your own instance if you can’t find out that aligns with your values.

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Cross-instance control of your identity would be nice but it’s easy enough to just make multiple accounts and manage them easily in your browser and every app under the sun. We are much less beholden to power tripping arseholes here than on a platform like Reddit.

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No it’s not. And for every account you don’t have a shared history. You don’t build a community.

Also, which are those apps you talk about? Because Jerboa doesn’t seem to be great for that. Switching between accounts is needed and quite annoying.

We are much less beholden to power tripping arseholes here than on a platform like Reddit

No. You’re way more beholden. The adminmod rules it all. What you see, who they federate, etc and it’s all defended by rabid users because “if you don’t like it leave and build your own instance*”. It’s not about community but instance owner absolute power.

Doesn’t quite work unless you’re absolutely in line with whichever narrative is happening. The echo chambers are bigger and the consequential toxicity upon dissent, much bigger.

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And account migration could be added in the future

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Beehaw is great, actually. Some things should not be tolerated.

I’m tired of basically every other place on the internet tolerating shitty people because of “freedom of speech” or whatever, poisoning the discussion and making it suck to actually participate.

It’s good to have a place where people actually operate on good faith, and not just to fight like everywhere else because they appeal to the lowest common denominator. Just look at how often reddit was criticized for being toxic. If you just allow everything, that is what will inevitably happen. You have to work to prevent that.

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Like I said in another post. Reddit active monthly is 1.6 billion . Beehaw have trouble dealing with few thousand users from 2 biggest instances, lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. Lemmy instances needs money, we can get more money by getting more users, which means more money going towards Lemmy and the fediverse. We need to start taking money out of the trillion dollar tech giants and the profits going towards instance owners, mods and devs that make Lemmy great. If beehaw is trying to make a instance to feel safe towards advertisers and give beehaw money, I understand that. However we haven’t reach that critical mass yet.

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Beehaw’s fine, no need to promote one side of Lemmy whilst laying into another.

I appreciate the need for variety but personally value safe spaces for discussion over anons right to troll with porn.

The code base needs work to allow safe spaces to exist and integrate with anons trolling now that there are a few million accounts.

It seems much more likely beehaw defeded due to the accounts here lolzing about posting homophobic content everywhere, as the instance owner is apparently gay, & posting knobs all over the feminist spaces. I suspect your take that beehaw action’s are to generate income is complete fiction, it’s to limit the ability of fuckwits on the server as the current mod tools are shite.

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Yeah miss me with the self-righteous, hateful toxicity of pre-2012 Reddit. I left because Reddit made the user experience horrible by shutting down better apps while their own was still abysmal. Idk anything about how ban-happy specific communities are here, but I understand if heavier moderating is needed at the beginning to prevent this place from turning into Voat

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¿Por qué no los dos? That’s the freedom of the fediverse, freedom of association.

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I know, but in my view if I want the fediverse to become mainstream, we need a way for 1.660 billion monthly active users to feel free and jump straight into the fediverse. Admins will need to find a way to monetize their instance, like ads or fediverse awards. So the instance owner can be not only cover server costs, it’s will be their job, get devs on board for FOSS development, grow the community and make the fediverse 1000% better. We need to start small first, that means we need play nicely to each other— so users that come on this board can consume content from other instances about the confusion of defederation.

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Is there a way to merge accounts so you can see everything in one place without switching? If not, managing multiple accounts is cumbersome.

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Lemmy servers are federated with each other, so users can participate in another server’s communities without having to create an account.* ActivityPub is the protocol that allows users to interact with compatible platforms including Kbin, Mastodon, and PeerTube.

Paraphrased from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy_(software)

*Servers may defederate/block other servers from participating in their communities for reasons including spam, bot activity, trolling, ideology, etc.

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You can view and comment in other instances (notice that my account is from programming.dev).

If you’re on desktop, you can see the equivalent of /r/all by viewing “all” on your instance. To view a community on another instance, you use the url: {domain of your instance}/c/{community name}@{domain of the instance of that community}

For example, I’m here and commenting with the url: programming.dev/c/main@sh.itjust.works

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Apps!

So far liftoff has dealt with this very scenario quite seemlessly.

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Wait what’s happening with Beehaw?

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Goodbye Reddit drama, hello Lemmy drama

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maybe dont sperg out over politics you can block communities stop defederating cuz thats exactly why im leaving

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Okay, so I’ve been here for a few days and I’m getting increasingly confused. I used reddit exclusively on mobile and was hoping to do the same thing for lemmy. But it seems like every app has major features missing. I’ve already tried 4 different apps and every one is missing a feature I’d consider critical. Keeping two accounts separate, adjusting settings for two different accounts, commenting, replying, posting, subscribing, and searching for specific instances are all pretty important, but every app is missing one or more of these features.

Is there a quickstart guide anywhere to get more familiar with this? Does anyone know of an app that can do all of this? I’ve already tried jerboa, summit, connect, and liftoff

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Honestly there is almost no reason to not just use your web browser instead of an app.

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A few of the developers of Reddit apps like Sync are now working on Lemmy versions. So I guess give it some time and hopefully your preferred app for Reddit will make it’s way over or have a clone with all the features you’re looking for.

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Try WefWef.App, it’s pretty great, quite reminiscent of Apollo: https://wefwef.app

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Does WefWef have a way to block users? This is the critical feature for me. Way too many hateful people spewing disinformation out there, not interested in seeing it.

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Unfortunately this feature seem to be missing for now. The dev has an GitHub issue open on it though so it is on the roadmap.

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Is this coming to the Play Store?

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It’s website that acts like an app. Very mobile friendly while not requiring an install.

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Don’t know, it’s actually a Progressive Web App (PWA) so you just visit in your browser, and can save it to your Home Screen, and from then on the web-app-via-browser works just like an app, seems just like a “regular” app. I’m on iOS but assume it can work similarly on Android.

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Cool well… give it a minute, you know? Some of the reddit apps have been in development for YEARS. So you’re not going to get to switch and immediately have every single thing you’re asking for in an app because the user base was non existent until basically the last two weeks.

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I’m in the same boat. I’m using Lemmy on Jerboa, Wefwef, connect and Lemmy.nz itself. Still haven’t found a favourite and run into small issues with all.

But there are updates almost every day, sync is coming as well, so I just stick around. It’s much better than Reddit in all regards.

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Try out liftoff, so far I’ve found it to be much more reliable and logical than Jerboa, I believe it’s based on boost for Reddit, but I have no idea; I came from Reddit if Fun

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Thanks, have seen it mentioned elsewhere, will try!

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It’s based on Lemmur, an old Lemmy app that doesn’t work anymore.

I’m using it, it’s great. It’s definitely a lot nicer to use than Jerboa.

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Speaking of Boost, it’s also moving to Lemmy

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After searching for suggestions by other users I tried Liftoff and it’s really decent.

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I don’t mean to sound like a dick, but this isn’t reddit, it’s basically brand new. It hasn’t been around for nearly 20 years, and it has had mobile apps for weeks/months, not for over a decade. You gotta be patient, more features,more stability, more ease of use, all of that will come. Reddit didn’t even have subreddits for like the first two years or so.

If it helps, the Sync for Reddit dev, a fairly major player in the 3rd party app scene, is making Sync for Lemmy. They’re hoping to get something usable out in 6-8 weeks, and long term goal is to bring it up to and hopefully beyond S for R’s standards.

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Try liftoff, as far as I can tell the accounts are kept separate, with the option of having a combined feed (which tells you which instances the post your viewing is being served from) or a separate feed for each instance you’re on

https://imgur.com/a/Rofvlwa

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Unfortunately none of these apps are made by large teams, most actually being largely done by one person so yeah there’s features missing because they’ve never really had cause to sink a ton of time into their development (and a bunch of them are also just new). Only real solution is you just have to wait until they catch up. Also there’s the existing Reddit apps migrating over, but those are probably still weeks away. But I can tell you there’s a lot of active development going on, it’s just that, with the exception of Jerboa which is maintained by the full time Lemmy Devs (who also have to maintain Lemmy itself) and the Reddit 3PAs maybe, we’re not really doing this full time and have regular jobs to go to.

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Thanks for the info. Hopefully Lemmy will survive these first weeks where the apps aren’t up to standard, and start to thrive like Reddit used to

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I hope that my comment didn’t read as me complaining. I fully understand that this is different from reddit and I’m grateful to every developer working on lemmy in any capacity.

I just wanted to be sure I tried all of the popular options to find what works best before fully committing to one. Out of the four, liftoff seems to be the best. The main issue it got with it is that both accounts share the same settings. If I change a setting for one account, it changes the settings for the other as well.

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This is a confusing buggy mess. The only ones really loving it so far are the fat ass sweaty former Reddit overlord mods. There are a lot of friendlier and easier to use alternatives out there. That, and Reddit isn’t going anywhere. You sad fucks can have your little unusable space.

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Just out of curiosity, do you have any examples of bugs? Perhaps someone would be able to help

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I tried creating an account on lemmy.world at first and could never get it to load correctly. Try joining another instance - lemmy.world is probably overloaded.

Edit: use lemmyverse.net to look through the available instances, their rules, and their uptime stats.

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Really? The instance I’m using works perfectly. …probably because it’s special.

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Oooooooooh! Lemmy-NitroSuperFastWow! That is a special one! It’s nice to hear they’ve got the special sauce over there.

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I’m using wefwef.app on lemmy world and it works great. It might be a problem with individual clients or instances

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Same client-instance combination and it’s unusable :(

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First comment after migrating from Apollo. Tried Kbin for a bit and had trouble navigating and finding content. Switched to Lemmy.world and wefwef and it’s real good so far!!

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I had issues with lemmy.world with comments not posting while using wefwef, I’m on lemm.me now and I feel it’s a lot smoother!

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