The shooter, a white man, killed three people after writing messages of hatred for Black people. He killed himself after opening fire in a dollar store.

A white gunman fatally shot three Black people in hate-motivated shooting at a Dollar General retailer in Jacksonville on Saturday afternoon, Sheriff T.K. Waters said.

“This shooting was racially motivated, and he hated Black people,” the sheriff said at a news conference. “He wanted to kill n------.”

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👈 trump effect did this

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Violent racism isn’t a product of Trump. Trump is a product of violent racism.

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I think there’s an argument to be .ade for it being a positive feedback loop

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Chicken or egg. One existed before but the other gave it a platform and kept it alive. I hope it changes in a decade.

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Fuck off, trump has done more to bring racism and fascism to the forefront than anyone else in recent history.

Racism, sexism and bigotry have gotten bolder in his wake, we’ve seen violence in his name, pelosi’s husband for example, as well as violence for other conservative beliefs like white replacement theory bullshit which absolutely was pushed by trumps friends like tucker (who famously hates his guts)

But yeah go on, trump is just a product of his environment :(. He holds no accountability I guess

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Trump didn’t promote or support racism, the media did using him as an excuse

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The list of violent right-wing extremist violence is is growing very long.

All this fanned by right-wing media and foreign agents like Russia.

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“This was, quite frankly, a maniac who decided he wanted to take lives,”

Copycat shooter with a manifesto, armed with the usual kit: A plate carrier, an AR-15, and a Glock.

While I can see this is a racially motivated shooting, I think this pattern indicates some deeper… suicidal, martyrdom ideology. The intent includes the suicide. It’s suicidally motivated, too. These plans include the repetitive messaging of a newsfeed marching down the list of mass shootings by scared whitr supremacists. Racial killing, suicide, manifesto, and the date makes it a copycat killing. Is he truly a maniac, if so many are falling into this same set of cowardly cries for help?

I feel no sympathy for the dead shooter. But I stare into the abyss, feeling I must empathize with the scared white supremacist who does this next.

Stochastic Terrorism (wiki)

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Killing three random dudes in a Dollar General isn’t going to “save the white race”. This guy’s plan is either evidence he was so dumb we’re better off without him in the gene pool, or was intended to kick-start the race war they want so badly. I refuse to feel sorry for him in either case. I’m not taking the high road. Fuck this guy.

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Yeah my best guess here is the possibility of someone being suicidal anyway and deciding to commit a hate crime to go out as some sort of half-assed martyr, or as some idiot that spent too long on the message boards and decided to “defend America” by committing a hate crime. Either way, an idiot that has signed a receipt for “I won’t be missed”

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I just hate that he took three innocent lives with him. Fuck that guy. This kind of hate is a blight on our country.

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I must empathize with the scared white supremacist who does this next.

Really?! What the fuck?

Conservatives do not empathize with you. They see empathy as a weakness to exploit. Do not empathize with them unless you’d like to become their next victim.

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You can empathize with someone without being exploited by them. I empathize with prisoners suffering in solitary confinement because I consider it inhumane. That doesn’t mean I’m going to allow myself to be attacked by a murderous psychopath without defending myself.

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Empathy is not agreement or defense, it’s understanding. Refusing to empathize is refusing to find a solution. Stop being part of the problem.

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I would say refusing to empathize is more akin to refusing to try and understand the person and their plight. That in turn can lead to missing potential solutions that work for all or most parties

Semantics of course

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You’ve just accidentally said you see empathy as a weakness too

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Yeah if youve ever had a job surrounded by a lot of conservatives you will quickly find out how correct you are. Peoppe that dont grow out of middle school become conservatives.

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The only possible way to try to prevent it is to try and talk them down before hand.

I mean, aside from the obvious gun legislation that won’t happen

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Fuck em. Let them all suicide their way out. As long as they stop taking innocent people with them, they can die in agony in a ditch as far as I’m concerned. The time for sympathy is over.

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But the problem is they don’t stop. And they’re being encouraged to kill.

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It’s shameful of me to have missed this detail.

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he was out of his mind with FEAR… nothing else…

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You’re probably not wrong. Conservatives have been shown to have a larger amygdala, yielding a greater reaction to fear and disgust.

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that’s true for “stupid” people in general… peasants and morons, people like that…

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Not sure why the downvotes, I think you’re right, fear is at the source of this muderous behaviour. This is the meaning carried by the “phobia” in “negrophobia”, " homophobia", etc. These people feel their very existence is threatened by their victims : they’ve been indoctrinated into thinking their “race” or “culture” are driven to extinction by other people. So yes, it’s absolutely fear.

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more to the point maybe, it’s useless to try to find a coherent idea inside their heads, with the idea of treating it, or heading it off in others or something… they consume a steady diet of fear inducing media, and look to their gun as the only help… when they snap, they’re just looking for the most convenient excuse to use the firearm finally…

it isn’t about anyone’s “race” (that idea never makes sense anyway), so much as someone is telling him appearance or culture is a fear vector for him (i.e. people who look and think differently hate HIM)… he’s listening for any reason to be afraid, it really doesn’t matter…

in fact, trying to assign the problem to his race or a racial idea is just doing the same in reverse… trying to find a reason to fear someone and create a fear vector in people’s minds…

and just to reiterate because it’s so important: it is USELESS to try to find a coherent idea of any kind in those heads

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OH BOY ANOTHER LONE WOLF! CAN’T FUCKING MOVE FOR LONE WOLVES AROUND HERE!

If you ever wondered what you would do in Germany in the 30s, you’re doing it right now.

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Which is head-in-the-sand, “I can’t do anything about it because the other side is the problem.”

Fascism takes over gradually, like frogs in a pot of water slowly heating.

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fun fact: if you try to actually boil a frog, it jumps out of the pot. frogs aren’t that dumb.

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Just another Trumper with a gun, who lived in his parents’ house.

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