cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/5636484
Great artists steal… and can get away with it. If you can’t get away with it, your not a great artist.
He forgot to finish the sentence.
Give him his due, he managed to convince one single country that the colour of a text message matters 😂
For real, if google didn’t completely screw up messaging every single year it wouldn’t be as big of a deal.
What did Android steal from Apple? Headphone jacks?
Didn’t we all end up just stealing a lot of todays shit from Xerox PARC anyway?
Fuck the slide to unlock discussion, let’s talk about representing hierarchies of files in a file system as folders in a graphical environment and why the thing that shows our position on a screen is a slanted arrow.
I mean maybe the idea of central app store that forbids installation of applications from other sources?
You mean like a Linux repository that existed before Apple “invented” the concept and renamed it an app store?
I certainly don’t take their side… but smartphones DIDN’T exist before the iPhone. Which phone would you say that was? BlackBerry?
Most people think of smartphones as a big touchscreen, and the iPhone was first, being released on June 29 2007, whereas the first Android phone was released over a year later in September 2008.
Mate I own a pre-iphone smart phone. What are you on about?
If you really wanna go back far enough, the first handheld, portable device which had both phone and computer technologies in one package dates as far back as the mid 90s. Touch screen and all. The term smartphone would first be coined in 1995. Heaps of other touch screen devices that could do phone calls, SMS, and had a suite of apps would come out in later years as PalmOS and later Pocket PC/Windows Mobile came to fruition in the late 90s/early 2000s. The iPhone was just iterating off technology and features already being seen in smartphones at the time, just in a sleeker, smoother, simpler manner with a capacitive touch screen rather than the resistive touch screens of most common devices at the time. Heck, the iPhone wasn’t even the first phone with a capacitive touch screen.
Apparently the whole concept of a touchscreen only device, including the UI, according to Apple at the time.
The iPhone was a novel concept as a whole. I think that’s undeniable. There was nothing like it at the time.
edit: found the iPhone haters and their revisionist history. The iPhone changed everything. When it was announced, nothing like it existed. Before the iPhone, google was working on a blackberry clone, for instance.
There were a bunch of products that had elements of the iPhone in them, but the iPhone was the first to bring a lot of them together into a technology that made the world shit it’s pants.
The problem for Apple is, you cannot really patent nor copyright bringing together existing elements like that. Hence they had to rely on stupid sounding lawsuits on the tiniest things they actually had the patents for.
Just as novel as the whole graphical desktop concept which they claim to be the ones who invented it but always forget to state that Steve Jobs stole it from Xerox? By Steve’s words, everything Apple does today is a “stolen product”.
Can fictional products be used as prior art against real world patents though? The entire idea of patents is to protect something someone made work in the real world.
Rich coming from a person who implied Apple innovated, when all they really did was be the first ones to assemble a consumer product out of already invented tech.
As a mobile app developer, I lost count of how many times Android would implement something New And Shiny, and then Apple would come along, sometimes years later, implement that same thing for iOS and declare and market it as Magical and Revolutionary. Usually the iOS one would be a better one, because they’d let Android work most of the bugs out, but I don’t recall too many things that Apple did that had never been seen before.
Not to mention in the early years, all of the logic you’d see from iPhone enthusiasts who would convince themselves that they didn’t need X or Y feature from Android and in fact iOS is better without it anyways because it just works, only for Apple to turn around and implement it a couple months or years later anyways.
Basic features like the notification shade, quick actions, home screen widgets, etc. I saw a lot of people happily claim they were better off without these things.
Yes. I remember being argued down that “we don’t need copy and paste! That’s not an important feature!”. Smh
This is so true.
For 10 years (2011 to 2021) I carried both an Android phone (personal) and an iPhone (work provided). Both phones were updated about every 2 years.
Over those years I’ve watched IOS get closer and closer to Android. The funny thing is Android has also been creeping towards IOS in some areas, though that is to a lesser extent than the other way around.
In recent years they’ve gotten pretty close to each other in basic functionality.
I still prefer Android, but IOS is much less annoying to use than it was a decade ago.
Guy at work literally laughed when I said iOS totally ripped off android navigation, thought Apple did that, pulled up a YT vid of when gesture navigation started, he walked away with his head down.
Then of course I followed him around going on about restricted Bluetooth for years, NFC chips they couldn’t use, how long ago the first Google wallet came out, and of course, how I can move my icons out of the way so I can actually see my wallpaper, which is too advanced for the apple devs LOL.
But agreed, iPhones are half descent now, great hardware, just wish people could actually use it the way they wanted to .
