Amazon’s CEO has told workers “it’s probably not going to work out” for them at the tech company unless they are prepared to come into the office at least three days a week.
Andy Jassy made the statement in a meeting where he made clear his frustration that some employees were not coming in three days a week, despite that being Amazon’s official policy. The comments were first reported by Insider.
He said: “It’s past the time to disagree and commit. If you can’t disagree and commit … it’s probably not going to work out for you at Amazon because we are going back to the office at least three days a week.”
As one of these employees, I’m very very pissed off. Then this article hits the day I get back from a nice vacation. Fuck it. My resume is already updated. Time to get out of here. I have less than zero respect for this guy. So much for nearly a decade at AWS.
Recently left there after 5+ years. Best decision I ever made. I knew I was burnt out and unhappy there, but I didn’t realize how burnt out and unhappy I was until they were in my rear-view mirror.
That said, the experience I gained at AWS definitely made me a valuable employee in my current job.
If you want to become a cool hacker and pwn some nerd in the Seattle area DM me.
Justification of office size is becoming an issue for large corporations and the top leadership doesn’t like it. They say seeing an empty office has a demoralizing effect on those whose jobs require them to be in the office while teleworkers get to be home. Additionally what’s the point of having a big office if no one is there to see you in it. It’s all about the top earners wanting to feel important.
When COVID hits, I was in a software company, ~300 people, who were there daily for years, as everyone in this kind of company around the world… Then we worked from home, I went there after 2 or 3 weeks to take a computer/monitor, there was maybe 10 people in the building, max. And it was like this for 3 years, I then quit and went there to bring back the computer/monitor, still thousands sqft of office, empty. Now work for another company 100 miles from me, remote work for life it will be for me.
So you are risking pissing off the people who CAN work from home in an attempt to not lose the people who can’t. Because… there is a reason that was my “old job”.
“I didn’t get a good deal so fuck the people who did” is misplacing the anger. If they can’t retain staff because some people have to work on-site, maybe get people who want to do that. Those people exist.
Having co-location and the ability to just grab Susie on the UX team because you vaguely recall she worked on something like this is incredibly valuable. Because yes, you can ping them on Teams, but you have no guarantee that they are sitting at their desk or that this is a good time to pull them into a quick meeting.
How do you have any more guarantees that she’s at her desk in the office and not busy with something else than you do by pinging her on Teams?
This is probably the dumbest take of the entire thing. Let me just leave the conference room, go see if Susie is available, maybe wait for her to finish something, then go back to the conference room and have no clue what I missed. Vs, ping Susie on Teams while still listening in on the meeting. She then joins the meeting without having to get up or anything.
Maybe it’s because I’m in a UX team and you hit a nerve, but “pull them into a quick meeting” summarizes my contempt for office life. The lack of boundaries and constant distraction was relentless.
I’ve met many Susies who, like me, dreaded the “Hey Suze, you got a minute?” because everyone vaguely recalls that we’ve worked on something related to their project. It was not as valuable or productive as you think. Pinging the person on Teams and not expecting an instant reply was the right thing to do, even back in the old days.
You sound like someone who’s stuck in 1985 IBM world. There are tons of companies out there that literally have no official in location and no office and have been around for decades… saying you’re unable to do collaboration work is bullshit.
Yea babe, its time to part ways
Fucking WHYYYYYY
I mean, I know why, it’s control. But WHYYYYYYYYY you evil fucks
