- Click on the big button in the header next to ‘Local’ that says ‘All’.
- Click the drop-down field directly next to ‘All’.
- Click ‘Active’ from the drop-down list.
- Click on a thread loaded on the page.
- Reply to users in that thread.
Congrats! You have successfully done a brigading! Pat yourself on the back! Next seminar, we will be covering how to subtly deceive strategically-important redditors with a simple tactic they don’t know of called ‘whataboutism’
Edit: meant to post this in the secret group chat where we coordinate the fall of the west. Sorry y’all. My bad
When a lemmy thread is put in the dunktank and people go to the thread from the post in the dunktank even if it isn’t linked it still is brigading, it’s brigading when the tankiejerk places do it to lemmygrad too, it’s funneling people into a thread that they only saw because it was posted in the dunktank. If that isn’t brigading then nothing is brigading.
It’s disengenious to try to spin it as people only finding stuff in the all tab, because people do jump into the threads they see in the dunktank and that definitely hasn’t contributed to making any goodwill for this site among other instances, if the person deserves to be dunked on people will find it they dont need a giant bat signal post in the dunktank to figure it out.
I do think most of the people put in there deserve it on some level, but you guys are speedrunning every other user to instance ban hexbear whenever that comes out.
It’s brigading when someone links to a post and says “hey go get this guy”. It’s stochastic brigading when someone links to a post and says “people should dunk on guys like this.” It’s not brigading when someone links to a post and says “wow can you believe people with takes like this exist? See for yourself.”
I’ve never seen the first. I’ve seen the second a tiny handful of times. It’s almost always that last one. It’s not brigading. We just want to see the zoo full of abysmally bad takes for ourselves.
Alternatively if folks want Hexbears to stop dunking on them maybe try having better takes
I don’t see any difference between the 3 people will just assume “hey go get this guy” is an unwritten rule unless it explicitly discouraged in the comm rules and maybe some factor of anonomizing the user is done as well. A random poster is not gonna be able to differentiate whether the person from hexbear found it browsing all or through the thread on their site in “thedunktank”
I disagree with your idea of brigading. It’s a public space, why does it matter how people get there? What matters is what they’re actually doing. Why would anyone care how someone got somewhere, if they’re not doing anything else wrong? And how is disagreeing with someone, or telling a bigot to fuck off wrong?
To me, the issue is trying to destroy the space itself. But honestly, if telling a bigot to fuck off destroys the space, how much am I supposed to care? Why would anyone care about a space where bigots are protected? Do people genuinely see a space full of bigots as a space worth saving?
why does it matter how people get there?
The only reason it matters is the term brigading explicitly pertains to “how people get there”
You can think it’s a good thing, that’s not unreasonable, it’s just what the term means, I personally trust the mods on most of the places I post to so far hexbear included, they have not given me a reason to distrust them, I have not seen egregious bigotry staying up after being reported
The only reason it matters is the term brigading explicitly pertains to “how people get there”
Yes, and its the least important part of the definition. Unless there’s intentional destruction, its not brigading. Even people who care about brigading very rarely care how people find posts. Its only when they feel people are being destructive that they care.
But honestly, if telling a bigot to fuck off destroys the space, how much am I supposed to care?
When I arrived here I got called a wrecker by about a dozen or so bears because I believe in dronegender rights. They said that speaking in favour of drone rights would have a destructive effect on the space.
Guess what? I didn’t shut up and now Hexbear supports trans rights. Win. Destroying the toxic and oppressive parts of communities is good. It lets the rest of the space shine.
Fundamentally disagree. Brigading, as originally conceived by reddit, is an organized raid of one forum by another. Posting a screenshot to the_dunk_tank with a link is not organization. There is no call to action, it’s just naming and shaming. If the user featured in the screenshot said something reprehensible, then they shouldn’t be surprised if it spurs others to relentlessly mock and bully them. But when that happens, it’s absolutely not a unified effort, nor is it targeting the forum as a whole.
That’s just a consequence of saying reactionary shit in a public setting in full view of people who tend to be hurt by reactionary rhetoric. This isn’t violence, there are no real threats being made. Everyone is totally free to continue to say whatever they want in accordance with the rules of their home instance. But if you voice your opinion in public, it’s rather hypocritical to get pissed about others voicing their own opinions back.
Brigading, as originally conceived by reddit, is an organized raid of one forum by another.
I think most people not on this instance will see no difference between this and thedunktank, if there was a tankiejerk community just as big as the dunktank and operating in the same way with no explicit call to brigade and they mass showed up to hexbear posts featured on it, would you feel the same way, I don’t buy it, you would probably just defed from them
The dunk tank is just a socialists-only politics-only version of /r/subredditdrama or /r/againsthatesubreddits. Why is one brigading but the other is not? It’s only brigading when socialists do it but it’s not brigading when liberals do it?
We would defed from them for saying reactionary shit. It’s the content of their posts that would be a deal breaker, not just the existence of their comments in our threads. We wouldn’t weasel our way out of this by citing bullshit internet rules of civility, we would outright admit that the separation is ideologically motivated.
yes but we’re right.
Also we tend to ban dipshits once we’ve had our fun. They’re welcome to do the same, but the fact we keep our petty bullshit to ourselves and instead engage in earnest in the OPs, I think goes some way to dispelling the brigadier narrative
if there was a tankiejerk community just as big as the dunktank and operating in the same way with no explicit call to brigade and they mass showed up to hexbear posts featured on it
oh god please, that would just be fresh meat for us all
Lol no, the mods would just ban them from the local like they did with the Kerry posters during the beginning of the forum’s existence, depending on the level of spam. They’ve done this song and dance before. This isn’t that difficult to do unless you are allergic to any sensible level of moderation. If you don’t like what the hexbear people are saying, or how they are saying it, ban them. It doesn’t matter, you’ll find some excuse or another anyways.
See, unlike your or other forums, this forum doesn’t pretend to be ‘neutral ground’, which means we actually have a robust and old-school moderator culture. There is very little of that new shit of ‘laissez-faire forum culture’ which was mostly an excuse to keep the pedophile and Nazi forums around, as this forum isn’t focused on growth.
This is besides the fact that we just have more terminally online people in our instance. Which isn’t a brag, but good luck out-posting us. It’ll be an uphill battle for sure even if the moderation wasn’t robust here.
If that isn’t brigading then nothing is brigading.
Now you’re starting to get it. Brigading isn’t a thing. Brigading isn’t a thing in old-school forums where raids are just a fact of life nor is it a thing on places like Twitter where getting dogpiled for being the Twitter main character of the day is just a fact of life.
Brigading is only a thing on Reddit, and last time I checked, we’re not on Reddit.
When people here seek out stuff on the other instances to post there yes, but a lot of the time it’s people coming here and kicking the hornets nest in which case I don’t think it’s brigading at least in spirit.
Brigading is a dumb concept anyway, but trying to convince ex-redditors of that is a waste of time
I don’t disagree, but posting another lemmy post as a post in thedunktank is literally the definition of “brigading” funneling users from this instance into whatever thread, I don’t think it’s that harmful, but I can see why people see it as brigading because that’s what it is
Posting reprehensible takes to the dunk tank is good and gives those engaged in the OP a place to vent without actually brigading.
Posting posts of posters positing the pig poop people are patronizing after performing poorly on personal positions is positive good.
Sorry for alliteration I just went with it
Those basically always show up after the thread has already seen tons of activity from this instance.
But, it is a part of the three-year-old culture that could be problematic with federation, and has been a topic of debate because of that. We just always post an actual link to the topic cause that’s more interesting and informative than just seeing a screenshot. (Plus if you don’t you’re a lib.)
/Edit - What’s even funnier in all this is our devs just happened to be working on un-forking our pre-federation codebase to a point where we could federate when the Reddit exodus happened. They even announced it something like a week beforehand, but IIRC the main point was in being able to integrate all the nice upstream improvements. And, especially of note, before that we were probably 80% of activity on all Lemmy instances.
me and my friends on the way to brigade another thread
Joke’s on you’ll I browse the mod log for posts to dogpile
no more half measures walter
Don’t make me tap the sign
spoiler
Brigading is something that Redditors think is real unlike the age of consent which they do not believe in
Don’t make me tap the sign is a Simpsons reference
It’s about how spez used to mod r/jailbait and multiple of the high ups in redit used to be nonces, now thankfully they’ve got rid of the nonces (and replaced them with NATO ghouls)
