Turns out there are plenty of things more worthy of fighting for than enabling fascists and terrorists to lure in vulnerable people and harass marginalized people
Most people are ok banning Nazis. It’s when you start banning Christian soccer moms, Republicans, slightly right of center you are full of shit.
If someone says
I am Nazi, heil Hitler. Here is a swastika it is my symbol.
Yes ban them.
If someone says
Life begins at conception. Marriage should be between a biological man and biological woman. Christ is king.
And you ban them while calling them Nazis you are kinda a ass hole. And you make the word Nazi mean less every time
If someone says
I am Nazi, heil Hitler. Here is a swastika it is my symbol.
Yes ban them
I think that depends on whether or not that person actually believes that. If it’s just low quality edgelord shitpost spamming the community yeah get rid of it, but if this person is actually willing to have a good faith discussion on their ideals I think the conversation being had for better or worse seems preferable to just outright banning/silencing.
I think the issue is that free speech needs rules to it or else you will always have hate like the nazis festering in some corner somewhere. It needs to be understood that hate, discrimination, racism, etc. Are the things NOT tolerated so everything else can be safe.
Same thing with democracy. It seems perfectly reasonable until you realize there are some very ignorant out there
Except reddit just got rid of the alt right racists but then doubled down on the leftist racists. Remember the whole you can’t be racist against a minority but you can be against a majority global rule? They didn’t get rid of racism, they just switched it around. But in all honesty American politics ruined that site the same way /pol/ ruined 4chan.
Not really sure what the point of this whole post is all authoritarianism is pretty cringe but I guess one group cries more.
See just some totally normal behavior over here.
https://exploding-heads.com/post/169768
https://exploding-heads.com/comment/63062
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The concept of free speech is being intentionally misused by right wing trolls, it doesn’t mean “you can say anything without consequences”. It means “you can’t to jail for saying stuff”, but depending on what you said, there’s cases where you should definitely be ridiculed, banned or punched for it.
IMO the USA’s “no exceptions to free speech” approach is a big mistake.
Hate speech shouldn’t be free speech, because people’s rights to not be attacked for no reason should override bigots’ rights to say whatever garbage they think.
Dangerous misinformation shouldn’t be free speech. Without all of the COVID denialist conspiracies the pandemic could’ve ended a year sooner and avoided millions of pointless deaths
Also worth remembering that the echo chambers that scream non stop about FREEZEPEACH don’t actually have any. Try disagreeing with anything in r/conservative and you’ll get an instant ban
americas reasoning for allowing for all forms of free-speech isn’t because we think all sorts of free-speech are worthy of actually being allowed. It’s because we do not trust our own government to apply this ruling without bias. having a rule at all allows for the potential for it to be abused. imagine if Desantis is elected and banned the use of non traditional pronouns. Basically just think of trump or Desantis being in charge of deciding what can or cant be said. Do we like the outcome? I’d rather idiots be legally allowed to say whatever they want and have them be publicly shamed.
