0 points

It doesn’t matter who made it, Rockstar still owns it. Why bother doing something over when someone else did it for you for free? If someone steals my family portrait and paints a Stormtrooper on it, I’m still allowed to hang it up in my living room.

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11 points

Oh come on

  1. It means they’re a bunch of twats that have never considered the future or their customer’s needs (some game devs and publishers release non-DRM versions eventually)

  2. You can’t guarantee how safe the crack is. If there was some really cleverly hidden malware, now it’s on them

  3. Cracks may still be imperfect and have issues. Again if something doesn’t work, now it’s on them

  4. Just how stupid does it make them seem? All this time fighting piracy and now they’d be lost without them. Because we know how the likes of R* handles their old properties. If they had to do it themselves, it would be a fuckup

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-2 points

Whatever it is these kinds of arguments are trying to criticize, I don’t think the resolution is one that is favorable to gamers.

I’d rather have a cracked cheap DRM-free copy than one whose new price factors in development to do correctly.

Points 1 and 2 are jabs at the company postures sure but once you peel that back don’t tell me you want them back on the DRM train. Who cares if the company position seems silly.

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5 points

So the only two options are to keep drm forever, or use cracked versions? Ever heard of GOG? Just how much do you think it costs to make two builds of a binary?

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Do you guys think Rockstar did this, or a Valve employee? If you’ve ever seen the interview with the GOG CEO, he mentions how they routinely have to use these files they find on the internet to get the games to work. Who’s going to prosecute this, Razor, for copyright? Oh, wait. I’d just be a bit more leery if there’s some latent malware in there. But, then again, I wonder if older malware even still works in the new version of Windows. Not that they patched some hole, but more that MS has just evolved Windows and now some things that the MW used to be in one spot are in a new spot, or just outright don’t exist.

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3 points

Valve just manages the storefront, and provides a OS/libraries to improve capability on Linux OS with proton.

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20 points

Valve won’t touch game files, way too much liability and not nearly enough incentive given the money machine that steam is. This one is definitely Rockstar, and I’m betting they just don’t have the capability of compiling the pc version anymore.

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21 points

Definitely rockstar indeed manhunt, another of their games, has the same razor hex sign in the game files, and I’m pretty much sure rockstar did this, because manhunt is unplayable on steam because all the antipiracy measure in it are trigghered, and the funny thing is that is not happening because of the crack but because rockstart added the steam drm in a non code section of the game that trip a Data Execution Prevention.

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2 points

So if i get manhunt from a trusted repacker theres a good chance it will work better than the legit one?

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2 points

Yes

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129 points

People keep misunderstanding why this is huge deal.

Obv razor is not going to file suit for copyright, that’s just dumb, but the big news is that they are using a cracked version and selling it as a legitimate one. This means they somewhat approve of the crack in the game in that fashion. That is surreal and also proves a bunch of arguments against DRM. That is the real news here.

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13 points

This means they somewhat approve of the crack in the game in that fashion

No it doesn’t lol

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10 points

“We absolutely disapprove of cracks! Here, buy this cracked game.”

Well I know it makes sense in corpo-world, just not in a world that runs on logic and common sense.

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2 points

It just means someone was lazy and hoping nobody would notice, it says absolutely nothing about how much they approve of it lol

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-2 points

This isn’t really news. It’s likely a result of a cost benefit analysis combined with c-suite direction. It’s really not that big of a deal at all. It’s like Nintendo being criticised. What a colossal waste of energy to care.

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8 points

It’s like how the “You wouldn’t download a car” video has pirated music in it.

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11 points

That’s just an internet myth that everyone wants to be true.

It was a completely different obscure anti-piracy commercial.

https://torrentfreak.com/sorry-the-you-wouldnt-steal-a-car-anti-piracy-ad-wasnt-pirated-170625/

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23 points

What does it prove and how? It just seems like they are being lazy.

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58 points

At the very least it’s tacit agreement that cracks are an important part of digital preservation.

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22 points

Feels like there should be class action lawsuits for the people who purchased what they thought were legit copies of the game.

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11 points

If it’s through steam then there are receipts about what binaries where installed; and at the end of the day it’s legally their game so if they sell it then it is automatically legit.

This is also why Nintendo feels they can sell emulators they didn’t write with the Mini consoles and the VC & Nintendo Online…

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2 points

Could you elaborate more on the Nintendo issue?

I know nintendo has come down HARD on game modding. Even for games that are decades out of circulation.

Can you expand on the whole emulator thing?

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91 points

This reminds me of when Nintendo was caught selling ripped ROM’s from a pirate site in the WiiShop lol.

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5 points

IIRC it didn’t end with the wiishop either. Off the top of my head, there was some controversy surrounding the NES/SNES Classic consoles. I think they used emulators that were written by pirates, instead of writing their own?

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4 points

They did, if I remember correctly,

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32 points

Also reminds me of the time Microsoft was using a cracked version of SoundForge to make system sounds:

http://www.techpavan.com/2009/05/24/microsoft-deepz0ne-pirated-cracked-sound-forge-windows-xp-audio/

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4 points

Oh, I almost forgot about that one lol.

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24 points

XD holy shit, how is that even possible?

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37 points

Too lazy to remove old DRM, so they just use a pirated .exe file.

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