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62 points

They’re putting themselves into an awkward position to have to accept that a fetus is a person and thus eligible to receive tax deductions, use the car pool lane, etc.

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Republicans will do anything to avoid admitting they were wrong.

The closest you’re going to get is when they stopped talking about W after it was clear he was a dangerous dipshit in over his head.

Now they won’t even do that, since Trump is twice the dipshit and a hundred times more incompetent.

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I think they’d gladly accept those changes. I agree that men should be financially responsible from the point of conception but the language of calling it “child support” is definitely intentional and nefarious. They want zygotes to be looked at socially and legally as people to legitimize total abortion bans and the harsh punishments that follow.

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It also gives the father power over the mother. Just wait for: He pays for it, so he should have a say in whatever the mother does.

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As though abortion bans don’t incentivize rape already.

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They’re also putting themselves into an awkward position because this impacts men. Reactionaries only want the bae things to happen to other people.

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I want to see how this goes in court when people can’t test paternity for months. You see it makes a decent headline but is neither applicable nor effective for government or citizens.

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I want to know what happens in the event of a miscarriage. Is the man still on the line for child support?

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Does life insurance have to pay out on miscarriage? Find ways to make rich people lose money with this and I’ll bet you’ll start finding solutions.

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I’m pretty sure this is just another step to make miscarriages punishable. If they can wrangle zygote personhood they can make any abortion both illegal and murder. They can then try to punish any women who miscarry.

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Kinda like that drunk driving child support law im Texas. Sounds wonderful until you realize said driver will be in jail and not making money

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It wouldn’t be much different from today.

Babies aren’t tested the minute they’re born. They get tested some time after birth and the father then owes the back child support. It would be the exact same thing, except the father would be on the hook for an extra 9 months of payments.

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This is entirely meant to kickstart another conversation over fetal personhood.

A couple of people have said that they don’t know what kind of pandora’s box they’d be opening, as it would also allow things like pregnant women claiming their fetuses as dependents, along with other tax breaks. It means women being able to collect child support, etc.

And the GOP are going to say this too. They’re going to tell you just how much you can expect to get if you continue the pregnancy. They’re going to package this as their “devotion to doing whatever it takes to support women and their children as part of the right to life movement.”

“Following through with pregnancy will entitle women to thousands of dollars in additonal tax breaks by being able to claim additional exemptions in their tax returns for the year they’re pregnant, which can be used to support women who otherwise would not have had the funds available to buy everything she needs at this most critical time, leading to difficult choices that could have been avoided.”

And they will hammer this home. Until they get fetal personhood established and abortion banned. The minute they get their way, watch how quickly these tax breaks get rescinded in the next GOP-controlled budget. Watch how quickly they try to sunset these tax breaks as quickly as possible by burying it on page 47, paragraph 4 of a routine must-pass bill that would otherwise have gotten no attention. Watch how quickly the next “Tax Cuts and Jobs Act” is almost entirely funded by cutting off these benefits. Heck, half of me believes that not only would they rescind the tax breaks, they’ll somehow make pregnant women pay it back retroactively.

If it’s not this specific topic, it’ll be something. The overall game plan is this:

  • Make whatever promises are necessary in order to get a national abortion bill passed without too much public blowback.
  • Get a national abortion bill passed.
  • Rescind or ignore the promises.
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Sounds about right.

They’ll support women and fetuses right up until birth then it’s “I got mine fuck you” as they cackle about poor kids suffering.

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Oh but we’ll have the imaginary issue of “conception queens” who get pregnant in December and abort in January just to get tax breaks

They’ll envision it as this widescale issue that doesn’t actually exist

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This will not have the effect you think it does.

This will make dudes kill a lot of pregnant ladies.

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With they then be charged with double-murder?

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The fact that they’d get charged with two murders instead of one would mean exactly nothing. If life in prison without the possibility of parole isn’t a deterrent for them, it won’t matter if they kill one person, two, or a busload of nuns.

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DeSantis is unfit for leadership for a plethora of reasons

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