One thing I really hate about this whole Russia-Nato situation is that it’s not a secret that the purpose of NATO is to fight Russia. Everytime these people downplay the idea of expanding closer, and closer until you have fucking missiles and a DMZ along Russia’s borders I just get annoyed, because you know damn well that any rational human would be concerned that an invasion (or false flag attack) could happen at any moment.
All you have to do is listen to Putin and Lavrov. There’s a reason their true words are never presented in western media. Putin has been singing the same tune on NATO, the US, and Russia’s desired place in the world since 2008 at least. Lavrov as well. Their requests have been clear and unchanging. The US and NATO on the other hand have escalated at every opportunity.
Actually Putin was friendly with Europe, he was friends with Italian center right bourgeois parties for decades , also Chiraq of France and Austria. Even when Boris and Biden humiliated Putin about his physical appearance (shirtless and others) , he gave a calm and a fantastic elegant reply. Lukashenko is right, Putin is very calculative, he is frendly with PKK and Assad and took down ISIS once in for all.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-turkey-russia-idUKKCN0YL0TY
I like the framing that NATO is a military. It is marching towards Russia, just like the Third Reich, just like Napoleon. The difference this time is that NATO isn’t fighting each country it marches through. It “negotiates” with them, tells them if they don’t let NATO in then Russia will get them, tells them they have to fund it.
Like any good shake down, NATO occasionally launches wars of aggression to make these “negotiations” easier because of the “implication”. Sometimes when a target country isn’t amenable, the country suddenly finds a right-wing uprising and coup on its doorstep and then suddenly the country becomes more amenable to NATO. Sometimes, the right-wingers are funded and they win elections without the need for a coup and they support NATO.
But from a strategic perspective, there is no difference in threat to Russia whether the military marching across Europe towards the Ukrainian border is Napoleonic cavalry, Third Reich armor, or NATO nukes.
Right? But libs are still all “Sovereign states do what they want, they’re not Russia’s backyard, they can join whatever alliances they want!!!”. And libs in Russia go even further with “Well they’re right to want to fight us! Because putler! Evil sovok! Authoritarianism!!!”
Edit: oh look, they are doing exactly this in this very thread!
Liberals: “Nuh uh”
In the minds of these people “diplomacy” is literally just “we always get our way”.
It works until it doesn’t.
Ya know, ten or twelve years ago, I met this gentleman from Russian armed forces. He said something that at the time seemed strange and nonsensical to me: “When we say ‘compromise’, we mean that both parties roll back a little until the end result is acceptable. It’s not perfect, but it works. But when the west says ‘compromise’, they mean one party retracts all demands, and the other gets everything it wants. That’s the cause of our difficulties with the west.”
Turns out he was dead on the money.
@BattleforEurope’s page is based, he has a few more tweets related to this topic
Sovereign countries get to make their own decisions without invasion.
Sovereign like when American neocon Victoria nuland picks your country’s next president?
