53 points

The conservatives voted for body autonomy and ban mask mandates… and then banned body autonomy for transgendered children

permalink
report
reply
10 points
*

Children can’t vote but their parents can and their base fear government telling them how to raise their children. This strategy forces liberals into a no win situation were they will always look like their goal is to brainwash their kids. That fear is something a lot of fence sitters already fear.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Brainwashing kids by not injecting the state into private medical decisions?

I don’t get it, but fear is not rational.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points
*

It is a type of reasoning, just a bit twisted. By giving kids the ability to transition or seek medical interventions, you’re also taking away the parents ability to control their kids, forced by the state which is a quick jump on the conclusions map to the other belief they’ve set up previously which is the state is brain washing kids to become trans through the state run education system.

So in their view, the liberals are forcing trans ideology on children while trying to remove parental rights.

permalink
report
parent
reply
47 points

These dumbasses are handed such an easy path to getting a majority and they’re going to squander it on these stupid conservative culture war takes. I really hope Canadians see soon that if they feel let down by the liberals, the conservatives are only going to be a shittier version of the worst aspects of the liberals. We should be looking to the NDP or green parties for real change.

permalink
report
reply
18 points

Liberals should really campaign by just showing Ontario since Doug ford was elected and saying “see what happens”

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

The Liberals could include Manitoba in that campaign as well.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

We gotta fix voting so the oranges have a shot of at least a minority and so the greens have to field a decent plan like in the 90s because they can’t bitch about voting anymore.

I hate the least-worse voting strategy and the alternatives we’re awarded if it fails.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

None of the parties really seem like they are ready to even talk about the real issues facing Canada, let alone actually do anything about them. No party seems to have any real plans to address housing affordability/shortages, wage stagnation, high insurance/telecommunication service prices and the various monopolies fuelling these issues. I think the lack of plans for these major issues is a signifcant factor why younger generations are not voting. They don’t really feel like any party is ready to help with their biggest problems.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

Look, I hate the conservatives as much as the next guy but this isn’t true. They have specific policy planks about the housing shortage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvFFGoAVeDY

(Warning, PP’s YouTube channel, I don’t know if you want that in your watch history considering how yt might use it for recommendations).

I’ve said before – most of their policy is terrifying and evil. But on the housing shortage, Poilievre’s echoing progressive YIMBYs like AOC. The party has clear and good policy ideas there and the Liberals should steal them to take this weapon away from them, the same way they steal policy ideas from the NDP.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Is he just removing some red tape on SFH, municipal taxes on devlopments and allowing places like the greenbelt to be developed or does he want to change the urban fabric of our cities by removing zoning laws that make builiding multi units and density impossible and force developers to build affordable housing as well as luxury homes? These both can increase the supply of housing but in very different ways that will impact urban fabric and housing prices. The conversation isn’t as simple as build more houses anywhere they can fit. Many of our cities have spralwed themselves into near bankruptcy and adding a new subdivsion and stripmall outside of town will not fix that. We need more variety in the housing market but as it stands it seems everyone is expected to own a minimum lot size with 2 car garage and 3 stories to their house regardless of their actual needs.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=WvFFGoAVeDY

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

permalink
report
parent
reply
36 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
reply
8 points

Not sure about the transgender drugs, but depending on how they approach “race based hiring” that might actually win them some votes.

There are a lot of people who have had issues with that, including people who are visible minorities but are concerned that people will consider them a “minority hire” rather than one based on skill/merit.

I can understand how that’s be pissed off, as the ones I know or worked very hard to obtain their positions and apparently found themselves beside some people who very obviously… did not and felt that race might have be an influential factor in hiring/promotion.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

What I actually meant is in not sure how their policies on such will influence votes.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

I lost a job offer, way back, and I was told on the sly by a trusted insider it was a demographic issue.

It stings. I know my capabilities and the post was a dream job that suited my positives perfectly. And I lost it because I was the wrong sex/race/ability/whatever.

but even in the pit of my own trivial self-pity I’m not gonna revenge-vote for people who’ll fuck everything else up just so snowflakes like me don’t need to feel that sting. I’m a grown-ass adult with only moderate entitlement.

The math doesn’t work. I’m a big fan of jobs going to the most qualified, period, but this is a baby/bathwater thing and it’s just not worth it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

The question is how many other people might vote on this or other similar stuff. Lemmy is still mostly populated by people who probably are a bit more intellectual (and willing to think beyond a single issue) but out of the overall voting pool…?

permalink
report
parent
reply
35 points

From a party of babies who are afraid of a needle, they sure seem to care about what other people do with their bodies.

I thought they were for freedom?

permalink
report
reply
20 points

They want freedom to do what they want, not freedom for you to do what you want. To be fair, we are all a bit like that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points
*

I think its more that they can infer with this stuff that liberals are coming for ✌️your✌️ kids

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

Despite warnings that these policies could be weaponized by their political opponents to hurt their standing among more moderate voters, a strong majority of the delegates on hand voted for a motion that stated children should be prohibited from gender-related “life-altering medicinal or surgical interventions,” and for another that said Canadians should have “bodily autonomy” when it comes to vaccines and other health treatments.

permalink
report
reply
7 points

This is great. It’s harder to nail them when they don’t say the quiet part out loud.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Canada

!canada@lemmy.ca

Create post

What’s going on Canada?



Communities


🍁 Meta

🗺️ Provinces / Territories

🏙️ Cities / Regions

🏒 Sports

Hockey

Football (NFL)

  • List of All Teams: unknown

Football (CFL)

  • List of All Teams: unknown

Baseball

Basketball

Soccer


💻 Universities

💵 Finance / Shopping

🗣️ Politics

🍁 Social & Culture

Rules

Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage:

https://lemmy.ca


Community stats

  • 3.2K

    Monthly active users

  • 5.5K

    Posts

  • 51K

    Comments

Community moderators