A few examples include s*x questions on askreddit, “this” comments, nolife powermods, jokes being more frequent than actual answers

252 points

Needlessly censoring words like sex. It wasn’t necessary on Reddit and it certainly isn’t necessary now.

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Censorship like that was introduced to make the platform appealing to advertisers. I’d say just don’t give power over how to run the platform to advertisers.

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I find it absolutely mind blowing that people are generally accepting that as okay on most social media platforms.

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I can only assume that people don’t understand why it was brought in on YouTube and TikTok in the first place because so many people do it when it isn’t remotely necessary. If you make your living posting on social media, then fair enough, I understand you need to fall inline with the rules of the platform. But why the hell would you self censor posts you don’t make money from? Utterly ridiculous.

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21 points

All they know is that The Algorithm won’t show their posts if they use those words. How anyone can understand that and not see how incredibly fucked up that is, though, I don’t know.

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I agree. It’s absolutely absurd that would say something along the lines of “Fuck, I got r*ped, what do I do?”

I’m of the opinion that you shouldn’t censor any words. If you feel the need to censor it, then just don’t say it. If you want to discuss it, then be able to say it. You should be able to say something like “X called Y a nigger”.

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I’d say people worrying about Karma.

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this /s

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As someone who is incredibly tone deaf in written conversation, please don’t get rid of the /s. It really does help

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I don’t agree, /s is immensely useful for neurodivergent people, some of which cannot recognize sarcasm at all.

Also, really often something that is “obvious sarcasm” for you is a genuinely held belief by someone online. Nothing is too ridiculous for the internet

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Sadly, I understand your point, but feel that I need to remind you of Poe’s Law. I think the /s is required because shit is all too real

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Even the /s I wouldn’t bring it here

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I was going to post that you’re lucky you included the /s, but I just realized we don’t have karma so it doesn’t matter anyways. Such a nice feeling…

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Fuck that /s If you’re unable to grasp context without it then just move on to a different discussion.

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karma (or upvotes-downvotes aka simple karma) shouldn’t be a reason to disallow someone from using a lemmy community

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I don’t know what form of karma Wander meant, but for me the “global karma” numbers are the worst part of reddit. People constantly posting stupid things or self-censoring to try to make number go up.

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9 points

Requiring minimum positive karma is stupid when it can be gamed so easily.

Someone with very negative karma is likely a troll.

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5 points

upvoted to give you more karma

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4 points

What exactly was the karma problem? I never saw it being a huge issue

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It becomes an issue if you imagine people on social media do what they do for karma in the same way people in real life do what they do for money.

In other words, if you have a deficient or extremely narrow theory of mind, you will think karna is the cause of everything

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4 points

Is there even a total karma counter anywhere at all?

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5 points

Not on Lemmy but there is on kbin (it’s called “reputation”, I think). I’m hoping it doesn’t get implemented here, but I guess we can see if it negatively affects kbin content as we’ve got a direct comparison.

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154 points

Making all these posts on Lemmy be about another site.

The community won’t flourish if the only thing people are talking about is their social-media ex.

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I think we need to give it some time. I was not there when Digg went bad but I’m assuming that in the early days of Reddit, there was a lot of discussion about Digg. Once Reddit reached a critical mass, posts about Digg died down.

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There’s a lot of discussion about Twitter imploding too. It’s not just that it’s an ex for most of us. It’s also the tech implosion.

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Also Meta wants to join the fediverse with Threads.

A lot of it is just people talking about their social media ex, but it IS part of a larger discussion about taking the internet back from corporations.

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6 points

exactly what happened but with the addition of some redditors being pissed off that we all jumped onto Reddit.

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45 points

To make the ex metaphor. Talking shit about your ex is not productive but talking about what was wrong or didn’t work can be very insightful. Entirely blocking your ex out of your mind is a pretty easy way to make the same mistakes again.

I can see why people think it’s annoying but I think this is also a good thing. Talking about this helps people understand what they want to see in their communities or instances.

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Pushing the metaphor even further, all my stuff isn’t even moved out of the ex’s house yet, so I’ll probably want to keep talking about them until the situation is over. It’s just going to take a little time.

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It’s the currently trending topic for pretty much everyone here. It will die down by itself eventually as it becomes old news.

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Obtuse comment, a vast majority of people have no self-awareness. Its good to discuss things.

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That is why I posted. To bring awareness that it is happening, and self awareness, and suggest that things can be done another way.

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I mean, a good chunk of the content on reddit came from Twitter or Facebook or 4chan, if not one of the many other sites that also scrape from those places. And after the Digg exodus, there was a lot of discussion about that too.

This is normal. This is just growing pains.

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I mean this is true and was a problem on mastodon when i joined as well with twitter but it died down and I can hope the same happens here.

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It took years for Reddit to stop bitching about Digg all the time. Hopefully, we will get over this phase quicker than that.

For the moment, I personally find this feedback valuable. We are starting something new, and a part of figuring out what we want to look like is acknowledging what we don’t want to look like.

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This

Edit: Seems like people don’t joke about this stuff here. Lesson learned.

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There are; but this isn’t even close to the right context where it even remotely works. Maybe if you did it on a comment saying “people who just reply ‘this.’”

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147 points

Censoring inoffensive words like sex.

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Allowing racists and fascists a seat at the table under the guise of ‘fairness’ or ‘free speech’. Reddit became polluted with far-right astroturfing in the last six years.

It is not tolerance to welcome those persons who seek to harm you.

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We cannot tolerate intolerance.

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That’s a paradox. You cannot tolerate everything. That’s why there’s no such thing as not being bigoted. It’s literally impossible to tolerate everything.

You just have to pick what things you’re not going to tolerate. Now if only we could always agree on what that is.

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Intolerance. Intolerance is the one thing you don’t tolerate. It being a rhetorical paradox doesn’t mean it’s difficult to implement.

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Reddit was full of racists even back in the early 2010s. /r/Coontown was a prime example of that.

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Whether or not it’s tolerance isn’t directly important.

The mistake that people make is assuming that tolerance is inherently good. It is to a certain degree, but there are many things that you do not want to tolerate. That’s where we want to be.

However, many people think of themselves as tolerant and find it difficult to make that conceptual realization.

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In the last 6 years? If anything, reddit got less tolerant of the far right since inception, it just became a bigger deal when they banned them in the last 6 years

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You believe what you want to. Nothing I say is going to convince you, random internet person.

I had used reddit since the near beginning, and over time the prevalence of ‘alternative facts’ and other right-wing narratives has risen sharply. You also have communities like r/conservative that participate in open calls to violence and perpetuate right wing dogwhistles for maximum rage bait. The sheer slide of r/politicalcompassmemes going from people role-playing different ideologies to thinly-veiled alt-right propaganda speaks to this shift.

Catering to conservatives and right wing players results in the enshittification of the website.

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I think that generally the internet got more of those types of people and they got louder, reddit used to have subreddits whose names were just slurs or subreddits blatantly dedicated to racism. The idea of a “dogwhistle” on reddit didn’t exist because the racists just said and did racist things without fear of being banned.

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Well yeah, to continue with the fire metaphor, it’s hard to put out a fire once you’ve already let it get out of hand. PLENTY of people were warning about those communities before they grew into the mob that stormed the capital, for example. Reddit only stepped in and did something about them when it became a bad look for them to let them keep shitting on the lawn.

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Everyone should familiarize themselves with the paradox of tolerance if they haven’t already.

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what? reddit was an american “left” “look at how good of a person i am for hating on racists and pedophile” (like congrats?) circlejerk
the racists and fascists were contained in their subreddits and were ignorable

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They shouldn’t have even had those and they weren’t ‘contained’

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maybe if you were actively looking for them or are very easy on the trigger of calling people racist, yeah they weren’t contained I guess

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I’ll counter and say that calling anyone you disagree with a racist/fascist in order to feel superior.

That shit was rampant on Reddit and seems to be slowly creeping into Lemmy as well.

Lol never mind, I guess it’s rampant here as well.

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I’ve never been called either in nearly 12 years on Reddit (and being plenty active with ~120k comment karma).

Maybe if you often get called that you should re-evaluate your opinions?

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7 points

Yeah, same. I think they doth protest too much lol

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brother I got called a racist for saying a football (soccer) player who happens to be black is shite
and football fans are way less trigger happy with accusations of racism than americans seem to be, even if they themselves are american for some reason

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Not in my experience; you just have to interact with the right people and they’ll sling those accusations around like mashed potatoes in a food fight.

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You are a fascist.

It’s easy to blend in when you blindly follow the narrative.

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Did you experience this often?

Edit: Y U P

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I know you think you’re being clever, but you see it in almost every front page thread on Reddit.

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8 points

Mmm, this might be a you problem.

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If that’s an issue that actually affects you often enough to complain about it, maybe, uh, maybe you should, idunno, search your soul or something.

You know what they say about someone who is always complaining that every room smells like dog shit when he walks into it.

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I never said people called me racist. I was a Reddit lurker. But you see it all over the place and unfortunately here too.

Such a sad way to live, constantly filled with anger and hatred.

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