Some Tesla engineers secretly started designing a Cybertruck alternative because they ‘hated’ it::“They were like, ‘You can’t be serious.’ They didn’t want to have anything to do with it,” Franz von Holzhausen said, according to Walter Isaacson.

23 points

Am I the only person besides Elon who likes the cybertruck? I hate agreeing with that idiot on anything, but I think the cybertruck looks cool.

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I’m indifferent to it, but the amount of people who give a shit is hilarious to me. If it goes 500+ miles, requires no paint and is cheaper than other electric trucks, it’s a win in my book. So weird how people use vehicles as an extension of who they are. It’s a fucking truck. Have you seen the competition? Tundras, F150, Sierra, and Silverado all look like ass.

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If it goes 500+ miles, requires no paint and is cheaper than other electric trucks, it’s a win in my book

I also would think it’s a win if it flies, turned water into wine, and had an automatic blowjob machine installed, which is about as likely to be true as the rest of this shit.

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13 points

They do all look like utter shit. But the cybertruck looks like single-digit iq shit, the other ones are at least closer to the center of the bell curve, even if they have tribal tattoos, goatees, and listen to the home depot guitar riff on repeat.

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3 points

I love it too. It’s completely ridiculous and ugly in a way that appeals to me.

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36 points

I mean I respect the opinion. I honestly think the design just needs to be workshopped. You could absolutely market a futuristic all metal pickup with bullet proof windows and all the other stupid shit it does. It’s just the design that’s the problem. It’s all Elon, and as we know now Elon is actually dumb as fuck. He’s a guy who mistook his type two bipolar symptoms as ‘flashes of genius’, got lucky in the dot com boom, and is now too rich to be told no.

You need that guy in your corner that says ‘I like the first draft Elon, but what if we changed a few things, I think you’re on to something’. Elon fired all those guys. And he probably flatly refused to change his initial design. So we have this stupid shit.

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12 points

All I can think about when I hear about how this guy conducts himself in business is Gavin Belson from Silicon Valley

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2 points

I mean, I doubt he did any of the designing of the truck at all…he may have pointed at some presented options and selected this one, but that’s probably the most “designing” he did…this is the shitty design-work of other people, put on display by him.

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43 points

I thought the concept looked cool, but the one driving around now looks absolutely fucking terrible imo.

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4 points

Yep.

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13 points

It looks like a car drawn by a 5 year old.

I’m not even saying that as an insult, that’s literally what it looks like.

My problem with it is that it’s just extremely boring imo

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15 points

Yes. It looks stupid.

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2 points

I’ll get one if it has 500 miles of range. I have a reservation but might wait to see how close Chevy gets before making a choice.

It could look like a potato for all I care as long as it can haul a bed full of stuff for 500mi.

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2 points

Rivian is offering a 400 mile range, with 600 bHP!

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1 point

Tesla is notorious for lying about their range.

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I have a model Y LR w/ 320 mi of range, and I have actually gotten that range before in ideal conditions, but yeah, it’s unlikely at best.

I’m in no rush, I can wait to see what Chevy and Tesla do before deciding. Maybe Rivian comes out with a 500mi R1S and I’ll just deal with a trailer.

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8 points

I think it looks okay but it’s just way too big

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1 point

It’s smaller than a F-150.

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19 points

That’s too big too

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10 points

It’s this. I want a Tron themed EV and I want it to not look stupid driving around suburbia.

And I’m afraid that those two things are mutually exclusive. Part of the cyberpunk aesthetic is the lack of soccer moms and hotdog stands.

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23 points

It’s intentionally designed to look polarizing. You’re not gonna find a lot of people sitting on the fence on this one and since it looks so different from every other car on the market there’s gonna be a lot of people who aren’t into the change. But yeah I hate it.

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5 points

I like it, but honestly, the bigger reason I want it is the supposed 14k+ tow capacity.

If it doesn’t actually achieve that, which I’m definitely dubious it will, it’s a nonstarter for me.

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2 points

I’d expect that to arrive at the same time as the unbreakable glass and the full self driving.

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1 point

I think it’s mostly that the roof comes to a point. If it had a flat roof it’d look a lot better.

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14 points

It looks like a cheap, “futuristic” car that would be in a vintage sci-fi movie.

I mean, there is nothing else on the road that looks like it for better or worse

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0 points

I ironically like it

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182 points

Cyber truck looks absolutely shit. The only thing it had going for itself was that it would have been the very first fully electric pick up truck - when it was first announced.

After more than 5 years Tesla is nowhere close to mass producing the ugly while Ford stole the thunder with announcing and launching the F150 Lightning. If I was in market for an EV pick up, I’d no longer consider Tesla cyber truck, let alone the Fascist ElMo’s shenanigans.

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-16 points

It hasn’t even been 4 years

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33 points

Gotta cut everyone some slack when estimating time since the pandemic. 3 years was 10 years ago.

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13 points

I’m 46. As far as I’m concerned, the 90s was last week.

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11 points

You’re right on that one, the struggle is real. Comes up in conversation pretty often.

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22 points

Good luck getting a base model F150 at a decent price. I tried earlier this year and only 3 dealers East of the Mississippi had the base model and they all wanted $30,000 OVER MSRP. Ford can lick my butt for not making enough base models and trying to push their XLT and platinums starting at $75k. I need a truck to work in not have it open and close the lift gate for me.

At this point I’ll take a shit looking truck at a decent price over whatever the duck Ford and their dealers thought was a good idea with producing so little of the base model, not to mention base model with extended range batteries were ONLY available to fleet purchasers.

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It’s almost like lithium supply chains are absolutely fucked, and EVs would get zero traction without government subsidies.

Feels good though. Saving the world. (/S)

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We actually just discovered the largest deposit of lithium on earth in Nevada, so those should get unfucked in the next couple years.

Kansas has declared all their children available for the mines.

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4 points

You are actually allowed to buy directly from the manufacturer. Contact the Ford plant. They’ll sell it to you at MSRP

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4 points

Not the pro model (base model). You can order direct for all other trims though

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14 points

Two years ago I was going to but my first ford, my first truck, AND my first electric because it was the same car. On paper the F150 Lightning seems like the most practical family car ever made. Dealer markup and low volume completely killed it. Ford should eliminate dealerships and sell direct with fixed pricing.

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7 points

It would be great if they just made more base models. They’re “sold out” for this year already, but you still can order the luxury trims for trucks that haven’t been made yet. I’m not convinced that Ford actually wants to sell any base models.

I walked away and bought a Bolt EUV instead.

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8 points

The “micron precision” memo that leaked tells me they’re nowhere close to mass production. At my old job, tolerances were pretty much set when we finished a design for a large chemical unit operation – which was typically built within two years. I would expect mass production of something like a car to not to take too much longer.

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4 points

Rivian also has some decent designs. I know that Ford has a stake in the company, but it’s only holding 12%, so I don’t know that they have much say in what goes on over there.

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2 points

I could’ve sworn Ford sold out in April. Also I love the idea of a Rivian, looks so good, but one of my customers has had one on order for so long it might as well be the cybertruck to him at this point.

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5 points

I see what you did there, stealing thunder with the Lightning.

And yes, Ford’s approach is smart, cheaper, and more utilitarian. Besides, it doesn’t stand out like a smashed thumb in a splint.

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I dont believe for a second that any engineer in Tesla was opposed to this design. Everyone wanted a taste of daddy Tesla after that cybertruck was revealed. I know its en vogue to shit on Elon now in 2023 but 2020/2021 everyone was dick riding the biggest chad on earth.

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8 points

Come on, even Tesla fanboys though it was a joke and were waiting for Elon to roll out the real truck. About five people liked that truck back then.

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30 points

Gross. Absolutely not. Just because some people failed to grasp that every billionaire sucks donkey dick, doesn’t mean everyone did.

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-14 points

You are either 15 or you are lying to yourself

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2 points

I’m 30, and I’m quick to judge. For example, your hindsight sucks as much as your judge of character.

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4 points

I’ll be perfectly honest with you. I have never liked the Cybertruck. It looked ridiculous when it came out and there were various online articles that agreed with this at the time. Though I will grant you that there were also a lot of people on the Elon bandwagon who thought it was awesome. One of my best friends actually put down the deposit for one and he and I had a lively debate about it. It was a controversial thing from day 1. And looking back now, this might have been my first clue that Elon was headed off the deep end.

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Yeah what I meant was engineers that were at tesla were all on board. These guys work shit hours for shit pay just so they can have Tesla on the CV. This was even more competitive 2 years ago when Tesla was stonks and every word Elon said was cherished. I would agree I was on board with Tesla and I didnt like the cyber truck but im not a Tesla engineer.

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50 points

There’s no way in hell this shit doesn’t completely flop, right? Like, who in their right mind would buy this garbage aside from techbros riding Elon’s pole?

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I don’t like Elon and I don’t like trucks but I like the cybertruck design 🙂 it’s just refreshingly new design on the road

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7 points

Something that looks straight out of a Hulk Hogan action show is refreshingly new to you? It looks like a late 80s early 90s toy.

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0 points

Sorry, I’m not that old 😅

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19 points

Refreshingly new? It looks like someone started 3D modelling a Sprinter Trueno, but gave up after making the first low poly draft.

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7 points

I like this sort of art

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7 points

If it weren’t for Musk standing to make a profit from it and Tesla’s history of questionable design decisions and quality issues, I’d potentially be interested in one. I like how it looks (although my aesthetic choices are certainly not everyone’s cup of tea,) and the specs are pretty impressive if they manage to deliver on them.

There’s a lot of hunger out there for more EV trucks, musk fanboys will gobble up anything he is involved in, and lots of people make questionable vehicle purchases, I think it will sadly sell just fine.

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5 points

I predict it will flop harder than the Segway.

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4 points

Here’s to hoping Musk tries some extreme cyber trucking on a very high and dangerous cliff somewhere too.

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3 points

Was the Segway a flop? I feel like they were popular with university campuses and the like.

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5 points

Wait, should I stop expecting the Segway to finally become the next big thing??

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13 points

I know someone who preordered this atrocity immediately. He of course drives a Tesla already and was convinced it was fully self-driving capable (3 years ago! LOL).

Some people really embrace Musk’s reality distortion field. Other co-workers just made fun of him and asked him if he was going to put his current Tesla S on his Cybertruck’s truckbed to max out his Tesla fanboyism.

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16 points

There’s a ton of goobers that want it, but very few are actually going to be able to afford it. It’s going to be 80k plus

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2 points

There are plenty of people not in their right minds who have the money (or access to financing) and questionable taste to go buy the thing as soon as it’s available.

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5 points

wait it’s still in process, not out yet? How long is the development during, for this horror?

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2 points

It will be a moderate success, I suspect. Owing more to the massive demand for electric vehicles than the cyber truck’s particular design.

No chance it will outsell the f150 lightning, except possibly if Ford can’t build enough to meet demand.

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